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But he abandoned the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men who had grown up with him, who stood before him. He said to them, “What counsel do you give, that we may answer these people, who have spoken to me, saying, ‘Make the yoke that your father put on us lighter?’ ”

The young men who had grown up with him said to him, “Tell these people who spoke to you, saying, ‘Your father made our yoke heavy, but make it lighter to us;’ tell them, ‘My little finger is thicker than my father’s waist. Now my father burdened you with a heavy yoke, but I will add to your yoke. My father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.’ ”

So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king asked, saying, “Come to me again the third day.” The king answered the people roughly, and abandoned the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and spoke to them according to the counsel of the young men, saying, “My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke. My father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.”

So the king didn’t listen to the people; for it was a thing brought about from Yahweh, that he might establish his word, which Yahweh spoke by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat. When all Israel saw that the king didn’t listen to them, the people answered the king, saying, “What portion have we in David? We don’t have an inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, Israel! Now see to your own house, David.” So Israel departed to their tents.

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  • WEB World English Bible

    But he abandoned the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men who had grown up with him, who stood before him.

    He said to them, “What counsel do you give, that we may answer these people, who have spoken to me, saying, ‘Make the yoke that your father put on us lighter?’ ”

    The young men who had grown up with him said to him, “Tell these people who spoke to you, saying, ‘Your father made our yoke heavy, but make it lighter to us;’ tell them, ‘My little finger is thicker than my father’s waist.

    Now my father burdened you with a heavy yoke, but I will add to your yoke. My father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.’ ”

    So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king asked, saying, “Come to me again the third day.”

    The king answered the people roughly, and abandoned the counsel of the old men which they had given him,

    and spoke to them according to the counsel of the young men, saying, “My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke. My father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.”

    So the king didn’t listen to the people; for it was a thing brought about from Yahweh, that he might establish his word, which Yahweh spoke by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.

    When all Israel saw that the king didn’t listen to them, the people answered the king, saying, “What portion have we in David? We don’t have an inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, Israel! Now see to your own house, David.” So Israel departed to their tents.

  • KJV King James Version

    But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and which stood before him:

    And he said unto them, What counsel give ye that we may answer this people, who have spoken to me, saying, Make the yoke which thy father did put upon us lighter?

    And the young men that were grown up with him spake unto him, saying, Thus shalt thou speak unto this people that spake unto thee, saying, Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it lighter unto us; thus shalt thou say unto them, My little finger shall be thicker than my father’s loins.

    And now whereas my father did lade you with a heavy yoke, I will add to your yoke: my father hath chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.

    So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king had appointed, saying, Come to me again the third day.

    And the king answered the people roughly, and forsook the old men’s counsel that they gave him;

    And spake to them after the counsel of the young men, saying, My father made your yoke heavy, and I will add to your yoke: my father also chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.

    Wherefore the king hearkened not unto the people; for the cause was from the LORD, that he might perform his saying, which the LORD spake by Ahijah the Shilonite unto Jeroboam the son of Nebat.

    So when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king, saying, What portion have we in David? neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse: to your tents, O Israel: now see to thine own house, David. So Israel departed unto their tents.

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  • JPS JPS Tanakh (1917)

    But he forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men that were grown up with him, that stood before him.

    And he said unto them: 'What counsel give ye, that we may return answer to this people, who have spoken to me, saying: Make the yoke that thy father did put upon us lighter?'

    And the young men that were grown up with him spoke unto him, saying: 'Thus shalt thou say unto this people that spoke unto thee, saying: Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it lighter unto us; thus shalt thou speak unto them: My little finger is thicker than my father's loins.

    And now whereas my father did burden you with a heavy yoke, I will add to your yoke; my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.'

    So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king bade, saying: 'Come to me again the third day.'

    And the king answered the people roughly, and forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him;

    and spoke to them after the counsel of the young men, saying: 'My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke; my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.'

    So the king hearkened not unto the people; for it was a thing brought about of the LORD, that He might establish His word, which the LORD spoke by the hand of Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.

    And when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king, saying: 'What portion have we in David? neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse; to your tents, O Israel; now see to thine own house, David.' So Israel departed unto their tents.

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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On vv9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16 There is nothing harder for them that are in…

There is nothing harder for them that are in authority, than to bridle their affections, and to follow good counsel.

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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv8–16 1Ki 12:8 But he forsook the counsel of the…
Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 11, 15, 16 He forsook the counsel of the old men; judging…
Matthew Henry 1710 · Public Domain On v16 We have here the rending of the kingdom of…
John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv8–16 But he forsook the counsel of the old men,…
John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 15, 16 Young men - So called, comparatively to the old…
Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On vv10, 11, 15, 16 Verse 10. And the young men that were grown…
Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 13, 16 1Ki 12:8. But he forsook the counsel of the…
Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 11, 15, 16 The age of Rehoboam at his accession is an…
Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 11, 15, 16 Him. They were young, compared with the former, though…
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv11, 15 whips . . . scorpions--The latter [instruments], as contrasted…
Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain On vv8, 10, 11, 15, 16 8. The young men that were grown up with…
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On vv8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16 8. young men that were grown up with him]…
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On vv10, 11, 15, 16 (10) Thus shalt thou speak.—The advice of the young…
The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv8–16 But he forsook the counsel of the old men…
The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain On v10 My little finger shall be thicker than my fathers…
C. I. Scofield 1917 · Public Domain On v16 (See Scofield "Jdg 8:1").
Paul E. Kretzmann 1924 · Public Domain On v16 Jeroboam King over Israel
unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv8, 10, 12, 15, 16 Lighten the yoke that your father put on us
Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv8, 11, 12 12:8-10 young men: Rehoboam’s appointed contemporaries took a hard…
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