Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying by En Rogel; and a female servant used to go and tell them; and they went and told king David. For they might not be seen to come into the city. But a boy saw them, and told Absalom. Then they both went away quickly, and came to the house of a man in Bahurim, who had a well in his court; and they went down there. The woman took and spread the covering over the well’s mouth, and spread out crushed grain on it; and nothing was known. Absalom’s servants came to the woman to the house; and they said, “Where are Ahimaaz and Jonathan?” The woman said to them, “They have gone over the brook of water.” When they had sought and could not find them, they returned to Jerusalem.
After they had departed, they came up out of the well, and went and told king David; and they said to David, “Arise and pass quickly over the water; for thus has Ahithophel counseled against you.”
Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On vv17, 19, 20, 21 Or, the well of Rogel.
Or, the well of Rogel.
Meaning, the message from their fathers.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv17–21 2Sa 17:17 Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by Enrogel;…
2Sa 17:17 Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by Enrogel; for they might not be seen to come into the city: and a wench went and told them; and they went and told king David.
Ver. 17. And a wench went.] She went to Enrogel, that is, the Fuller’s fountain, - where those two were by their parents’ appointment, under pretence of fetching water or washing clothes there, - and carried intelligence. Thus David’s safety depended upon the faithfulness of a wench. God delighteth to help his servants "with a little help," as it is in Dan 11:34.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On vv17–20 En-rogel, or, the fuller’s well; a place near Jerusalem,…
En-rogel, or, the fuller’s well; a place near Jerusalem, Jos 15:7; 18:16.
A wench went and told them; pretending to go thither to wash some clothes,
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv17–21 Nevertheless, a lad saw them, and told Absalom,.... Saw…
Nevertheless, a lad saw them, and told Absalom,.... Saw them conversing with the girl, and departing for David's army; according to Josephus (o), they were some horsemen that saw them about two furlongs or a quarter mile from Jerusalem, and acquainted Absalom with it:
but they went both of them away quickly; made all the haste they could with their message to David:
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and came to a man's house in Bahurim; where very probably they had been informed David had been, whither he came weary, and had refreshment, Sa2 16:14; or rather, perceiving they were discovered and pursued, they turned in hither, the first place they came to, for safety:
which had a well in his court; which they observed, and was the reason of their turning in:
whither they went down; to hide themselves from their pursuers, it being dry, as sometimes wells were in the summertime: Josephus says (p), a woman let them down by a rope.
(o) Antiqu. l. 7. c. 9. sect. 7. (p) Ibid.
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John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain On vv17, 19, 20 Enrogel - Or, the fullers well. A place near…
Enrogel - Or, the fullers well. A place near Jerusalem, Josh. xv, 7; xviii, 16. Wench - Pretending to go thither to wash some cloaths, or to draw water.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On v17 Verse 17. En-rogel] The fullers' well; the place where…
Verse 17. En-rogel] The fullers' well; the place where they were accustomed to tread the clothes with their feet; hence the name עין ein, a well, and רגל regel, the foot, because of the treading above mentioned.
And a wench went and told them] The word wench occurs nowhere else in the Holy Scriptures: and, indeed, has no business here; as the Hebrew word שפחה shiphchah, should have been translated girl, maid, maid-servant. The word either comes from the Anglo-Saxon [A.S.] a maid, or the Belgic wunch, desire, a thing wished for: multum enim ut plurimum Puellae a Juvenibus desiderantur, seu appetuntur. So Minsheu. Junius seems more willing to derive it from wince, to frisk, to be skittish, c., for reasons sufficiently obvious, and which he gives at length. After all, it may as likely come from the Gothic wens or weins, a word frequently used in the gospels of the Codex Argenteus for wife. Coverdale's Bible, 1535, has damsell. Becke's Bible, 1549, has wenche. The same in Cardmarden's Bible, 1566 but it is maid in Barker's Bible, 1615. Wench is more of a Scotticism than maid or damsel; and King James probably restored it, as he is said to have done lad in Ge 21:12, and elsewhere. In every other place where the word occurs, our translators render it handmaid, bondmaid, maiden, womanservant, maidservant, and servant. Such is the latitude with which they translate the same Hebrew term in almost innumerable instances.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain On vv18, 20 2Sa 17:18-19. Nevertheless a lad saw them — Who…
2Sa 17:18-19. Nevertheless a lad saw them — Who knew them to be favourers of David, and observed that they waited there with design to gain intelligence, and possibly saw the girl speaking privately to them. But they went away quickly — Suspecting by the observation which the lad made, and his after conduct, that they were discovered. And came to a man’s house in Bahurim — Turning out of the public road, as Josephus explains it, they made haste to this village. Which had a well in his court, whither they went down — For at that time of the year their wells were in many places dry, or had little water in them. And spread ground corn thereon — Under pretence of drying it by the sun, which shows that it was summer- time. Thus the woman effectually concealed them.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain On vv17–20 En-rogel - See the marginal reference.
En-rogel - See the marginal reference.
A wench - Hebrew “the maid servant,” namely, of the high priest, either Zadok or Abiathar, or possibly one employed in some service in the temple courts. (1Sa 2:22 note.)
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And they went and told king David - As related afterward 2Sa 17:21. Here mentioned by anticipation.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On vv17–20 Robel, near Jerusalem, on the east. (Menochius) --- Maid,…
Robel, near Jerusalem, on the east. (Menochius) --- Maid, under the pretence of washing linen. (St. Jerome, Trad.)
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv17–18 by En-rogel--the fuller's well in the neighborhood of Jerusalem,…
by En-rogel--the fuller's well in the neighborhood of Jerusalem, below the junction of the valley of Hinnom with that of Jehoshaphat.
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On vv17–20 17. Jonathan and Ahimaaz] Hushai had evidently communicated David’s…
17. Jonathan and Ahimaaz] Hushai had evidently communicated David’s plan to Zadok and Abiathar, and commissioned the young men to be in waiting at a convenient place.
En-rogel] That is, “The Fuller’s Fountain,” probably the modern “Fountain of the Virgin,” in the valley of the Kidron, just outside the city on the south-east. It was close to “the stone of Zoheleth” (1Ki_1:9), which has been identified with the cliff Zahweileh, on which the modern village of Siloam stands. Others however suppose En-rogel to be the deep and ancient well known as “Job’s Well,” near the junction of the valleys of the Kidron and Hinnom. En-rogel was a land-mark on the boundary between Judah and Benjamin (Jos_15:7; Jos_18:16).
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they might not be seen] For it was notorious that the high-priests were on David’s side. They knew that their movements would be watched, as the next verse shews was the case.
a wench] The maid-servant: the definite article probably denotes a particular servant belonging to the household of one of the high-priests. She could go to the fountain for water without exciting suspicion. Wench, found here only in the E. V., means a girl, usually one of low birth.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On vv17, 19, 20 (17) En-rogel.—A fountain just outside the city, on the…
(17) En-rogel.—A fountain just outside the city, on the boundary between the tribes of Benjamin and Judah (Jos_15:7; Jos_18:16). There are two localities which claim to represent it, each of which has its earnest advocates: the “Fountain of the Virgin,” on the western slope of the valley of the Kidron; and “Job’s Well” just below the junction of the valleys of the Kidron and Hinnom. The latter answers much better to the description in Joshua, but either will suit the present passage. The loyalty of the high priests to David must have been well known, and it would have been quite unsafe for their sons to start from the city itself as bearers of tidings to David; even with all their care they were pursued. Their hiding-place, however, was well chosen. as women resorted to the fountains to draw water, so that communications could be had without attracting observation.
A wench.—The maid-servant, the definite article probably indicating some well-known maid of the high priest. The word wench is not found elsewhere in the English Bible.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv17–21 Stayed by En-rogel. The two youths were posted at…
Stayed by En-rogel. The two youths were posted at En-rogel, that is, the "Fuller"s spring," near Jerusalem (Jos_15:7; 1Ki_1:9) and probably the place now known as "Job"s Well," situated at the point where the valleys of Jehoshaphat and Hinnom meet. They were placed there because, though they would have been admitted into the city, they would scarcely have been allowed to leave it. Instead of wench a term less disrespectful when the Authorized Version was made than it is now the Hebrew has the maidservant. Probably the maid is meant whose usual duty it was to fetch water for domestic purposes, and thus her journey to the well would excite no suspicion.
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv17, 19, 21 Jonathan ... Ahimaaz
Jonathan ... Ahimaaz
See how you translated these men's names in 2 Samuel 15:27. (See: How to Translate Names)
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When the message came
Here the "message" is spoken of as coming to them, when really it is the woman who came to then bringing the message. AT: "When she brought them a message" (See: Metonymy)
this time
"one time"
So Jonathan and Ahimaaz went away
It is implied that they found out that the young man had told Absalom about them being there. This can be stated clearly. AT: "Jonathan and Ahimaaz found out what the young man had done, so they went away" (See: Assumed Knowledge and Implicit Information)
spring of Rogel ... Bahurim
These are the name of places, both near Jerusalem. Bahurim is a small town. (See: How to Translate Names)
they descended
"they lowered themselves and hid"
translationWords
Jonathan
servant
cistern
court
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Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv17–18 17:17 Jonathan and Ahimaaz: See 15:27, 36. • The…
17:17 Jonathan and Ahimaaz: See 15:27, 36. • The location of En-rogel is uncertain, but it cannot have been too far east of Jerusalem.
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