I say, “Keep the king’s command!” because of the oath to God. Don’t be hasty to go out of his presence. Don’t persist in an evil thing, for he does whatever pleases him, for the king’s word is supreme. Who can say to him, “What are you doing?” Whoever keeps the commandment shall not come to harm, and his wise heart will know the time and procedure.
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Who is like the wise man? And who knows the interpretation of a thing? A man’s wisdom makes his face shine, and the hardness of his face is changed. I say, “Keep the king’s command!” because of the oath to God. Don’t be hasty to go out of his presence. Don’t persist in an evil thing, for he does whatever pleases him, for the king’s word is supreme. Who can say to him, “What are you doing?” Whoever keeps the commandment shall not come to harm, and his wise heart will know the time and procedure. For there is a time and procedure for every purpose, although the misery of man is heavy on him. For he doesn’t know that which will be; for who can tell him how it will be? There is no man who has power over the spirit to contain the spirit; neither does he have power over the day of death. There is no discharge in war; neither shall wickedness deliver those who practice it.
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I say, “Keep the king’s command!” because of the oath to God.
Don’t be hasty to go out of his presence. Don’t persist in an evil thing, for he does whatever pleases him,
for the king’s word is supreme. Who can say to him, “What are you doing?”
Whoever keeps the commandment shall not come to harm, and his wise heart will know the time and procedure.
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I counsel thee to keep the king’s commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God.
Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?
Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man’s heart discerneth both time and judgment.
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I counsel thee: keep the king's command, and that in regard of the oath of God.
Be not hasty to go out of his presence; stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
Forasmuch as the king's word hath power; and who may say unto him: 'What doest thou?'
Whoso keepeth the commandment shall know no evil thing; and a wise man's heart discerneth time and judgment.
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- Ecclesiastes 10:4 (v3) If the spirit of the ruler rises up against you, don’t leave your place; for gentleness lays great offenses to rest.
- Hebrews 5:14 (v5) But solid food is for those who are full grown, who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
- Job 9:12 (v4) Behold, he snatches away. Who can hinder him? Who will ask him, ‘What are you doing?’
- Proverbs 24:21 (v2) My son, fear Yahweh and the king. Don’t join those who are rebellious;
- Romans 13:1-4 (v4) Let every soul be in subjection to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those who exist are ordained by…
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- Philippians 1:9-10 (v5) This I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are…
- Titus 3:1 (v2) Remind them to be in subjection to rulers and to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,
- 1 Peter 3:13-14 (v5) Now who will harm you if you become imitators of that which is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you are…
- Daniel 4:35 (vv3–4) All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he does according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants…
- 1 Kings 2:43 (v2) Why then have you not kept the oath of Yahweh, and the commandment that I have instructed you with?”
- 1 Chronicles 12:32 (v5) Of the children of Issachar, men who had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do, their heads were two hundred; and all…
- Proverbs 20:2 (v4) The terror of a king is like the roaring of a lion. He who provokes him to anger forfeits his own life.
- Luke 20:25 (v5) He said to them, “Then give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
- Acts 4:19 (v5) But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves,
- Romans 13:1-5 (v2) Let every soul be in subjection to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those who exist are ordained by…
- Romans 13:5-7 (v5) Therefore you need to be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. For this reason you also pay taxes,…
- 1 Peter 2:13-17 (v2) Therefore subject yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether to the king, as supreme; or to governors, as sent by…
- Exodus 1:17 (v5) But the midwives feared God, and didn’t do what the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the baby boys alive.
- Job 34:18-19 (v4) Who says to a king, ‘Vile!’ or to nobles, ‘Wicked!’? He doesn’t respect the persons of princes, nor respect the rich more than the poor;…
- Proverbs 14:29 (v3) He who is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who has a quick temper displays folly.
- Proverbs 17:24 (v5) Wisdom is before the face of one who has understanding, but the eyes of a fool wander to the ends of the earth.
- Proverbs 19:12 (v4) The king’s wrath is like the roaring of a lion, but his favor is like dew on the grass.
- Ecclesiastes 2:14 (v5) The wise man’s eyes are in his head, and the fool walks in darkness—and yet I perceived that one event happens to them all.
- Ecclesiastes 8:2 (v5) I say, “Keep the king’s command!” because of the oath to God.
- Ecclesiastes 10:2 (v5) A wise man’s heart is at his right hand, but a fool’s heart at his left.
- Daniel 5:19 (v3) Because of the greatness that he gave him, all the peoples, nations, and languages trembled and feared before him. He killed whom he wanted…
- Hosea 5:11 (v5) Ephraim is oppressed, he is crushed in judgment; Because he is intent in his pursuit of idols.
- Luke 12:56-57 (v5) You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky, but how is it that you don’t interpret this time? Why…
- Acts 5:8-9 (v3) Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much.” She said, “Yes, for so much.” But Peter asked her, “How is it that you…
- Acts 5:29 (v5) But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
- Romans 9:20 (v4) But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, “Why did you make me like this?”
- 1 Corinthians 2:14-15 (v5) Now the natural man doesn’t receive the things of God’s Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can’t know them, because they are…
- Proverbs 30:31 (vv3–4) the greyhound; the male goat; and the king against whom there is no rising up.
- Exodus 1:20-21 (v5) God dealt well with the midwives, and the people multiplied, and grew very mighty. Because the midwives feared God, he gave them families.
- Exodus 22:11 (v2) the oath of Yahweh shall be between them both, he has not put his hand on his neighbor’s goods; and its owner shall accept it, and he shall…
- 2 Samuel 21:7 (v2) But the king spared Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan the son of Saul, because of Yahweh’s oath that was between them, between David and…
- 1 Kings 1:50-52 (v3) Adonijah was afraid because of Solomon; and he arose, and went, and hung onto the horns of the altar. Solomon was told, “Behold, Adonijah…
- 1 Kings 2:21-24 (v3) She said, “Let Abishag the Shunammite be given to Adonijah your brother as wife.” King Solomon answered his mother, “Why do you ask Abishag…
- 1 Kings 2:25 (v4) King Solomon sent Benaiah the son of Jehoiada; and he fell on him, so that he died.
- 1 Kings 2:29-34 (v4) King Solomon was told, “Joab has fled to Yahweh’s Tent, and behold, he is by the altar.” Then Solomon sent Benaiah the son of Jehoiada,…
- 1 Kings 2:46 (v4) So the king commanded Benaiah the son of Jehoiada; and he went out, and fell on him, so that he died. The kingdom was established in the…
- 1 Chronicles 29:24 (v2) All the princes, the mighty men, and also all of the sons of king David submitted themselves to Solomon the king.
- Job 33:12-13 (v4) “Behold, I will answer you. In this you are not just, for God is greater than man. Why do you strive against him, because he doesn’t give…
- Proverbs 16:14-15 (v3) The king’s wrath is a messenger of death, but a wise man will pacify it. In the light of the king’s face is life. His favor is like a cloud…
- Isaiah 48:4 (v3) Because I knew that you are obstinate, and your neck is an iron sinew, and your brow bronze;
- Jeremiah 44:16-17 (v3) “As for the word that you have spoken to us in Yahweh’s name, we will not listen to you. But we will certainly perform every word that has…
- Ezekiel 17:13-20 (v2) He took some of the royal offspring, and made a covenant with him. He also brought him under an oath, and took away the mighty of the land;…
- Daniel 3:15 (v4) Now if you are ready whenever you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music to fall down and…
- Luke 12:4-5 (v4) “I tell you, my friends, don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will warn you whom…
- Colossians 1:9 (v5) For this cause, we also, since the day we heard this, don’t cease praying and making requests for you, that you may be filled with the…
- Psalms 119:6 (v5) Then I wouldn’t be disappointed, when I consider all of your commandments.
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On vv2, 3, 5 That is, that thou obey the king and keep…
That is, that thou obey the king and keep the oath that thou hast made for the same cause.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv2–5 Ecc 8:2 I [counsel thee] to keep the king’s…
Ecc 8:2 I [counsel thee] to keep the king’s commandment, and [that] in regard of the oath of God.
Ver. 2. To keep the king’s commandment.] Heb., Mouth - i.e., the express word of command. Go not here by guess or good intention, lest you speed as that Scotch captain did, who, not expecting orders from his superiors, took an advantage offered him of taking a fort of the enemy’s; for which good service he was knighted in the morning, but hanged in the afternoon of the same day for acting without orders. {a}
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And that in regard of the oath of God.] Thine oath of allegiance to thy prince. This Papists make nothing of. Pascenius scoffs King James for the invention of it. They can swear with their mouths, and keep their hearts unsworn, as she in the comedy. {b} Mercatorum est stare iuramentis, say they at Rome. They can assoil men of their allegiance at pleasure, and slip their solemn oaths as easily as monkeys do their collars. And I would this were the sin of Papists only, and that there were not those found even amongst us that keep no oaths further than makes for their own turn, like as the Jews keep none, unless they swear upon their own Torah, brought out of their synagogues. {c}
{a} Speed, 688.
{b} H γλωττ ωμομοχεν, φρην ανωμοτος μενει.
{c} Weems.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On vv2–5 I counsel thee; which verb is necessarily understood to…
I counsel thee; which verb is necessarily understood to make the sense full and complete. See the like defects of speech, Psa 120:7; Isa 5:9, &c.
To keep the king’s commandment; observe and obey all his commands; which is not to be understood universally, as if the king should have commanded them to deny or blaspheme God, or to worship idols, in which case every Christian man who reads and believes the Bible must needs confess that the Israelites especially were obliged to obey God rather than man, but only of such commands as are not contrary to the will of God.
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In regard of the oath of God; either,
1. Because of that oath which thou hast taken to keep all God’s laws, whereof this of obedience to superiors is one; or,
2. Because of that covenant or oath of fealty and allegiance whereby thou hast engaged thyself to him, of which see 1Ch 11:3; 29:24; Eze 17:16,18. Though this may also be understood, and is by some learned interpreters taken, as a limitation of their obedience to kings, the words being thus rendered, as the Hebrew will very well bear, but according to the word of the oath of God; obey the king’s commands, with this caution, that they be agreeable and not contrary to the laws of God, which thou art obliged by thy own and by thy parents’ oaths oft renewed to observe in the first place.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv2–5 I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment,.... Or,…
I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment,.... Or, "to observe the mouth of the king" (w); what he says, and do according to it when it is agreeably to the law of God, and according to the laws of the kingdom, by which he is to govern; for kings are to be honoured, obeyed, and submitted to, in the lawful discharge of their office: and such counsel and advice as this is wholesome; and, being taken, contributes much, as to the honour of kings, so to the good of kingdoms and states, and to a man's own peace and comfort. Aben Ezra supplies it,
"I command thee, or I admonish thee;''
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for it may be either a charge, or art advice, respecting this and what follows. Jarchi supplies and paraphrases it thus,
"I have need, and am prepared, to observe the mouth (or keep the commandment) of the King of the world;''
and so Alshech,
"observe that which goes out of the mouth of the King of the world.''
And indeed, to understand it, not of an earthly king, but of the King of kings, as it is understood by other interpreters also, suits better with what is said of this King in the following verses; whose commandments, which are not grievous, but to be loved above fine gold, should be kept from a principle of love, without mercenary and selfish views, as they are delivered out by him, and to his glory; and such a charge as this should be attended to, and such counsel be received;
and that in regard of the oath of God; who has swore, that if his children forsake his law, and walk not in his statutes, he will visit their transgressions with a rod, and their iniquities with stripes; and therefore should be careful to keep his commandments, Psa 89:30. Those who interpret this of an earthly king, by the oath of God understand the oath of allegiance and fidelity to him, taken in the name and presence of God, and therefore for conscience's sake should obey him: or render it, "but so that thou observest the manner of the oath of God" (x); or takest care to obey him; or do nothing in obedience to kings, which is contrary to the will of God; for God is to be obeyed rather than men, Act 4:19; especially, and above all things, that is to be regarded.
(w) "os regis observes", Tigurine version, Pagninus, Mercerus; "observa", Montanus, Vatablus, Junius & Tremellius, Piscator, Cocceius, Gejerus, Rambachius. (x) "sed, ita quod ad Deum attinent, observes rationem juramenti Dei", Varenius; "attamen, supra serve verbum juramenti Dei", Gussetius, p. 605.
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John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain On vv2, 3, 5 The oath - Because of that oath which thou…
The oath - Because of that oath which thou hast taken to keep all God's laws, whereof this of obedience to superiors is one.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On vv2, 3, 5 Verse 2. To keep the king's commandment] This sentence…
Verse 2. To keep the king's commandment] This sentence would be better translated, I keep the mouth of the king; I take good heed not to meddle with state secrets; and if I know, to hide them. Or, I am obedient to the commands of the laws; I feel myself bound by whatever the king has decreed.
In regard of the oath of God.] You have sworn obedience to him; keep your oath, for the engagement was made in the presence of God. It appears that the Jewish princes and chiefs took an oath of fidelity to their kings. This appears to have been done to David, 2Sa 5:1-3; to Joash, 2Kg 11:17; and to Solomon, 1Ch 29:24.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain On vv2, 5 Ecc 8:2-4. I counsel thee to keep the king’s…
Ecc 8:2-4. I counsel thee to keep the king’s commandment — All his commands which are not contrary to the will of God, who must be obeyed rather than any man, even rather than a king. In regard of the oath of God — Because of that oath which thou hast taken to keep all God’s laws, whereof this of obedience to superiors is one. Be not hasty to go out of his sight — Hebrew, to go from his face or presence, namely, in dislike or discontent to withdraw thyself from the king’s service, or from obedience to him: stand not in an evil thing — If thou hast offended him, persist not to do so but humbly acknowledge thine offence, and beg his pardon; for he doth whatsoever pleaseth him — His power is uncontrollable. Where the word of a king is, there is power — Whatsoever he commands he wants not power nor instruments to execute, and therefore can easily punish thee as he pleases. And who may say unto him — Hebrew, who shall say? who will presume, or dare to say so? He does not affirm that it is unlawful to say so; for Samuel spoke in that manner to Saul, and Nathan to David, and several other prophets to the kings of Judah and Israel; but only that it is difficult and dangerous.
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Oath - A reference to the oath of allegiance taken to Solomon at his accession to the throne (the margin of 1Ch 29:24).
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On vv2–5 I. Protestants add, "counsel thee, to keep, &c. "Obey…
I. Protestants add, "counsel thee, to keep, &c. "Obey the king and God." (Haydock) (1 Peter ii. 17.) --- Solomon proposes his own example, or speaks in the name of the just. --- God. The law of Moses, confirmed with an oath, or the engagement to be faithful to the king, 2 Kings vi. 3., and 1 Paralipomenon xxix. 24.
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv2–5 the king's--Jehovah, peculiarly the king of Israel in the…
the king's--Jehovah, peculiarly the king of Israel in the theocracy; Ecc 8:3-4, prove it is not the earthly king who is meant.
the oath of God--the covenant which God made with Abraham and renewed with David; Solomon remembered Psa 89:35, "I have sworn," &c. (Psa 89:36), and the penalties if David's children should forsake it (Psa 89:30-32); inflicted on Solomon himself; yet God not "utterly" forsaking him (Psa 89:33-34).
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2. I — Would better be followed by say, therefore. To keep, is imperative — “keep.”
The oath of God — An allusion to the oath of fealty sometimes sworn by subjects to rulers, as was done by the Jews who settled in Egypt under Ptolemy Lagos. This verse has a logical connexion with the previous one. Use, then, this excellent prudence in your relation to the ruler who has a sworn and vested right to govern you.
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On vv2–5 2. I counsel thee to keep the king’s commandment]…
2. I counsel thee to keep the king’s commandment] The words in Italics “counsel thee,” have nothing answering to them in the Hebrew, and the grammar of the sentence does not allow us to translate with the Vulgate, “I keep the king’s commandment.” The pronoun on the other hand is emphatic and it introduces a series of precepts. We have therefore to supply a verb, I, for my part, say, which is practically equivalent to the English Version. The reference to the king is not without its bearing on the political surroundings of the writer and therefore on the date of the book. It is a natural inference from it that the writer, whether living in Palestine or elsewhere, was actually under a kingly government and not under that of a Satrap or Governor under the Persian King, and that the book must therefore have been written after the Persian rule had become a thing of the past. On this view Ptolemy Philopator has been suggested by one writer (Hitzig); Herod the Great by another (Grätz). See Introduction, ch. ii. The interpretation which explains the word as referring to the Divine King must be rejected as allegorising and unreal. The whole tone of the passage, it may be added, is against the Solomonic authorship of the book. The writer speaks as an observer studying the life of courts from without, not as a king asserting his own prerogative. Even on the assumption that Pro_25:2-6 came from the lips of Solomon, they are pitched in a very different key from that which we find here.
and that in regard of the oath of God] It is not without significance as bearing on the question of the date and authorship of the book, that Josephus relates (Ant. xii. 1) that Ptolemy Soter, the Son of Lagus, carried into Egypt a large number of captives from Judæa and Samaria, and settled them at Alexandria, and knowing their scrupulous reverence for oaths, bound them by a solemn covenant to obey him and his successors. Such an oath the Debater bids men observe, as St Paul bade Christians obey the Emperor, “not only for wrath but also for conscience’ sake” (Rom_13:5). Submission was the part of a wise man seeking for tranquillity, however bad the government might be. Of such covenants between a people and their king we have an example in 1Ch_29:24.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On vv2–4 (2) The unconnected “I” with which this verse begins,…
(2) The unconnected “I” with which this verse begins, indicates that some word has early dropped out of the text. The italics with which our translators fill the gap no doubt give the right sense. It may be mentioned that Ecclesiastes is characterised by a superfluous use of the pronoun “I” after the verb, just as if in Latin we constantly had, instead of “dixi,” “dixi ego.” The counsels given here and Ecc_10:4 are not what we should expect from Solomon, but rather from one who had himself lived under a despotism.
In regard of.—The words so translated are found again Ecc_3:18; Ecc_7:14; see also Psa_45:5; Psa_79:9; Psa_110:4.
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The oath of God.—Unsuccessful attempts have been made to find in these words a definite historic reference. It is idle to quote the fact recorded by Josephus that Ptolemy Lagus secured the allegiance of his Jewish subjects by exacting an oath from them. This book has no connection with Egypt, and we need not look beyond the Bible for proof that an oath of vassalage was imposed on the Jews by their foreign masters, and that the breach of such an oath was regarded by the prophets as sin (2Ch_36:13; Eze_17:13; Eze_17:16; Eze_17:18). And there is reason to think that similar pledges had been given to native kings (1Sa_10:3; 1Ch_29:24; 2Ch_23:3).
Of God.—2Sa_21:7; 1Ki_2:43.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv2–5 I counsel thee to keep the king"s commandment. The…
I counsel thee to keep the king"s commandment. The pronoun I stands in the Hebrew without a verb (the Vulgate, Ego os regis observo, is not warranted by the grammar of the clause), and some take it as the answer to the question in ver. 1, "Who is like the wise man?" I, who am now teaching you. But it is better to regard the pronoun as emphasizing the following rule, supplying some verb (which may possibly have dropped out of the text), as, "Say, advise I, for my part, whatever others may do or advise, I counsel thee;" the injunction being given in the imperative mood. The Septuagint and Syriac omit the pronoun altogether. The warning implies that the writer was living under kingly, and indeed despotic, government, and it was the part of a wise man to exhibit cheerful obedience. Ben-Sira observes that wise men teach us how to serve great men (Ecc_8:8). Such conduct is not only prudent, but really a religious-duty, even as the prophets counsel submission to Assyrian and Chaldean rulers. (see Jer_27:12 Jer_29:7; Eze_17:15) The liege lord, being God"s vicegerent, must be reverenced and obeyed. St. Paul, though he does not quote Ecclesiastes, may have had this passage in mind when he, (Rom_13:1) "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God," etc.; and (ver. 5), "Ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience" sake." The "king" in the text is understood by some to mean God, but the following clause renders this improbable, and it is wisdom in its political aspect that is here regarded. And that in regard of the oath of God. The ray is explicative; "in regard of," or "because of," Ecc_3:18. "The oath of God" is the oath of allegiance to the king, taken in the name of God, under his invocation. (comp. 1Ki_2:43) So we read (2Ki_11:17) of a covenant between king and people, and people and king, in the time of Jehoiada; Nebuchadnezzar made Zedekiah swear by God to be his vassal; (2Ch_36:13) and Josephus ("Ant.," 12:1; 11:8. 3) relates that Ptolemy Soter, son of Lagus (following herein the example of Darius), exacted an oath from the Jews in Egypt to be true to him and his successors. We know that both Babylonian and Persian monarchs exacted an oath of fealty from conquered nations, making them swear by the gods whom they worshipped, the selection of deities being left to them,
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Honor the king.
I THE SUBJECT"S DUTY TOWARDS THE KING.
1. To keep the king"s command. Unless conscience interposes with a clear and distinct veto, as in the cases of Moses" parents, (Heb_11:23) Daniel and his companions in Babylon, (Ecc_1:8 Ecc_3:16-18 Ecc_6:10) and the apostles before the Sanhedrin (Act_4:19, Act_4:20) it is the duty of all to render obedience to the civil power, kingly or magisterial, even though the doing of this should entail suffering and hardship (Rom_13:1-7; Tit_3:1; 1Pe_2:13-15)
1. To abide in the king"s service. The subject should not be hasty "to go out of the king"s presence," in the sense of either renouncing allegiance to the king"s throne, or deserting the post of duty he has received from the king. The obligation to preserve one"s loyalty, however, is not absolute. Times may come when insurrection is a duty, as in the revolution which overthrew Athaliah (2Ch_23:15; 2Ki_11:16) Nor can it be maintained that statesmen should never desert their sovereigns. When these embark on projects the consciences of their ministers cannot approve, it is incumbent on these ministers to leave them. Only nations should not resort to revolutionary practices without due consideration, and statesmen should not resign their portfolios in a fit of haste.
2. To preserve the king"s favor. This the subject will usually do, if he persist not in an evil thing," i.e. if he take no part in conspiracies against the king"s power or person; as he certainly will lose the king"s favor by acting otherwise.
II THE GROUNDS ON WHICH THE SUBJECT"S DUTY RESTS.
1. The sanctions of religion. These as much bind the subject as if the subject had individually sworn an oath in God"s presence. The relationship existing between king and people being of Divine appointment, the subject is practically bound as by a solemn covenant in God"s sight to render obedience and loyalty to his sovereign (cf. 2Ch_23:16 2Ch_36:13) Nor does religion exempt the subject from such obligation even when the king is unworthy and his rule oppressive (Jer_29:7; Mat_22:21)
2. The power of the king. This also a reason why the subject should not raise the standard of rebellion without just cause, or offer unreasonable resistance to the carrying out of royal commands, that the king, as representative of the supreme power of the state, is usually able to enforce obedience and loyalty at least of an external kind. "The king doeth whatsoever pleaseth him," etc. (vers. 3, 4). The language applies to Oriental despots more than to constitutional monarchs.
3. The safety of the subject. Under arbitrary rule such as the Preacher alluded to, the way of submission was the way of safety. It might not, indeed, promise much good to the individual quietly to submit to a power he could not resist; but at least it would largely protect him against evil. Ideal rulers should be a fountain of blessing to their loyal as well as a force of repression to their disloyal subjects. (Rom_13:3)
4. The dictates of wisdom. The subject who might feel impelled to rebellion and disobedience perceives that, as "to every purpose there is a time and judgment" (i.e. a boundary beyond which it cannot pass, and a judicial decision upon its character which it cannot evade), since otherwise man"s misery beneath the whips and scorns of time would become intolerable, so the oppression under which he groans will one day exhaust itself, come to an end, and be called up for judgment at the bar of the Supreme, if not in time and on earth, at least at the world"s close, and in the unseen; and, perceiving this, the wise subject deems it better to keep the king"s commandment, and maintain allegiance to the king"s throne, than to enter on the dubious paths of insurrection and revolt.
Learn:
1. The superior honor due from man to him who is the King of kings.
2. The loftier grounds on which the Christian soul"s allegiance to God and Jesus Christ is claimed.
3. The blessedness of those who are faithful subjects of the heavenly King.
4. The folly of attempting to elude God"s presence, and the danger of persisting in an evil thing.
5. The high argument for patience supplied by the certain prospect of a future judgment.
Vers. 2-5.
The ruler and the subject.
It is possible that some persons, living under a form of government very different from that presumed in the admonitions of this passage under a limited monarchy or a republic instead of under an absolute monarchy of a special theocratic kind may fancy that these verses have no special significance for them, no applicability to the practical conduct of their actual life. But reflection may show us that this is not so, that there are valuable principles of interest and import for the civil life of all men.
I CIVIL AUTHORITY IS IN ITSELF OF DIVINE ORIGIN, AND POSSESSES DIVINE SANCTIONS. The king, the king"s word, commandment, and pleasure, are all significant of order in society, of that great reality and power in human affairs the state. "Order is Heaven"s first law." Right does not, indeed, grow out of civil authority, but it is its Divine basis. That kingship has often become tyranny, and democracy mob-rule, that every form of government may be abused, is known to every student of history, to every reader of the newspapers. But law in itself is good, and its maintenance is the only security for public liberty. One of the first duties of a religious teacher is to impress upon the people the sacredness of civil authority, to inculcate reverence for law, to encourage to good citizenship. He is not called upon to flatter the great and powerful, to repress discussion, to enjoin servility. But that freedom which is the condition of the true development of national life, and which can only be preserved by reverence for rightful authority, for constitutional government, should be dear to every Christian, and should be held in honor by every Christian teacher and preacher. "The powers that be are ordained of God.
II WISE PATRIOTISM LEADS TO CHEERFUL OBEDIENCE AND SUBMISSION TO AUTHORITY. Law for the most part is designed to repress crime, to maintain peace and tranquility, to afford protection to the honest, industrious, and law-abiding. Therefore to commit wrong of any kind, whether theft, or slander, or violence, is both evil in itself and is transgression of the law. A man who simply contents himself with breaking no civil law may indeed be a villain, for civil law is not all; there is a Divine Law which the civil ruler is not bound to enforce. But the bad citizen cannot be a good Christian; to break the laws of the state is not likely to lead to obedience to the commandments of the King of kings. It is, indeed, not to be expected that a man should approve of every command of the king, of every law which is enforced in his country. But if every man were to refuse to obey every statute of which he disapproved, how could government be carried on? The wonderful word of Christ is decisive, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar"s." Where no Divine ordinance is violated by conforming to civil law, the duty of the subject, the citizen, is plain; be should obey. He is, of course, at liberty under a constitutional government to use means of an honorable kind to secure a change of law. It is a grand word of the Preacher, "Whoso keepeth the commandment shall know no evil thing.
III LOYALTY TO EARTHLY, HUMAN AUTHORITY IS SUGGESTIVE OF LOYALTY TO GOD. When submission is enjoined, it is supported by a religious motive that in regard of the oath of God." It is evident that the authority of a parent or a ruler, the subjection of a child or a citizen, are intended to symbolize the even higher facts of the spiritual kingdom the empire of the "King, eternal, immortal, and invisible," and the loyalty of those who by the new birth have entered "the kingdom of heaven. T.
Vers. 2-5.
Allegiance of subjects.
It is scarcely to be denied that the wisdom which the Preacher exhorts his readers to exemplify in their relations as subjects with their kings, has something very like a servile tone about it. "There is not a trace of the enthusiastic loyalty of a Hebrew to a native sovereign, " whose power loveth righteousness, who judgeth God"s people with righteousness; in whose days the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth". (Psa_72:7) Nor do we find the freeman"s boldness, with which an Elijah could confront an apostate or a tyrant king. That fire is spout! The counsels here, as where he recurs to the same subject in the last five verses of Ecclesiastes 10., are those of submission, forbearance, self-control, prudence in dealing with a power irresistible, overbearing, often oppressive, yet which carries within itself the seeds of decay. Such advice may well have been needed by a generation of Jews, proud, intractable, detesting foreign rule, and groaning under the tyranny of an alien monarch" (Bradley). Loyal obedience to a duly constituted authority is declared to be
(1) a matter of conscience (ver. 2);
(2) a prudent course (vers. 3, 4, 5a);
because by it we escape the punishment incurred by rebellion, and enjoy some tranquility even under the worst rule. And as a consolation to those who are indignant at a tyrannous use of power, the reminder is given (5b) that punishment for evil deeds will be meted out in due time by a higher hand than ours.
II OBEDIENCE A MATTER OF CONSCIENCE. (Ver. 2.) "I counsel thee to keep the king"s commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. Though the words "counsel thee" are not in the Hebrew text, no better have been suggested to fill up the gap. But the emphasis which is laid upon the I by the omission of the verb may be interpreted to mean that the writer is giving a personal opinion, and not speaking authoritatively on a matter concerning which different men might form very diverse judgments. And we may compare with it St. Paul"s manner of speaking, "But to the rest say, not the Lord", (1Co_7:12, Revised Version) as contrasted with "I command, yet not I , but the Lord". (1Co_7:10) If we interpret the words in this way, a considerable measure of what I have called the servility of their tone is taken away. The writer is giving us prudential counsels, but of course the question still remains open whether there are not in certain emergencies higher considerations than those of prudence. He tells how tranquility may be preserved even under the rule of a tyrant; but it is for us to decide whether higher blessings than that of tranquility are not to be striven for. The great cautiousness with which he speaks is not unreasonable when we remember how ready men are to make use of passages of Scripture to justify even questionable conduct, and how many errors have sprung from an ignorant and self-willed misinterpretation of isolated texts. The advice, then, given is "to keep the king"s commandment" out of regard to the oath of allegiance taken to him or imposed by him. No hasty or ill-advised breach of such an oath is justifiable. It would seem that this passage was in St. Paul"s mind, though he does not directly quote from it, when he says, "Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake". (Rom_13:5) As is well known, both the words of the Preacher, and the teaching of St. Paul in the thirteenth chapter of Romans, have been taken as laying down the rule of passive obedience for all subjects in all circumstances. However cruel the despot, the duty of subjects to obey him implicitly, and to make no attempt to deprive him of his power, has been held by many to be clearly laid down by the Word of God. And great stress has been laid upon the fact that the ruler of the civilized world, when St. Paul wrote the Epistle to the Romans, was Nero, one of the most infamous and cruel tyrants who ever wore the purple. In our own country during the seventeenth century, when the question of the prerogative of the sovereign and the rights and duties of subjects engaged the attention of all, these portions of Scripture were often interpreted to teach that the king"s will was by right, and by the authority of God"s Word, above all charters and statutes and acts of parliament, and that no misuse of his power could justify rebellion against him. But those who took up this ground forgot or ignored the fact that kings gave duties towards their subjects, that coronation oaths bind them to keep the laws; and that St. Paul, in the very same place in which he commands subjects to obey, describes the kind of rule which has an absolute claim upon their allegiance. "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil.... Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: for he is the minister of God to thee for good a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." It must surely be evident to all whose minds have not been blinded by a grotesque and monstrous theory, that a ruler who is a terror to good works, who rewards vice and punishes virtue, and uses the sword of justice to enforce his own selfish and cruel purposes, cannot claim from subjects the obedience which the apostle commands them to render to one of the very opposite character. But though passive obedience to tyrannical government cannot be commended on any higher ground than that of prudence, there can be no doubt that in ordinary circumstances the faithfulness of subjects to their rulers is a religious duty. And so we find in many passages of Scripture blame attached to those who thought that rebellion against the authority even of heathen kings, to whom the chosen people might be in subjection, was justifiable. (Isa_28:15 Isa_30:1; Eze_17:15; Jer_27:12; of Mat_22:21)
II A PRUDENT COURSE. (Vers. 3, 4, 5a.) In these verses the Preacher "seeks to dissuade his readers from casting off their allegiance to the king, or taking part with the enemies of the monarch under any hasty impulse whatever." "Do not lightly forsake the post of duty, join in no conspiracy against the king"s throne or life," the words might be paraphrased. His power is absolute; he is above courts of law, and therefore any action against him must be attended with great risk. Of course, as I have said, the course recommended is a prudential one, and there are circumstances in which many will think that the oppressiveness of a tyrannical government has reached a pitch justifying rebellion against it. But those who seek tranquility will bear a great deal, and not be eager to enter on any such undertaking. In ordinary circumstances, those who obey the king"s commandment will experience no evil thing (5a), cases being left out of view in which the king requires obedience to decrees contrary to the Divine laws; (Dan_3:6) while the risk of failure in attempts to overthrow his power, and the anarchy and crime that generally attend insurrection against constituted authority, are calculated to make the wise man pause before he resolves to become a rebel. The advice given by the Preacher is so carefully stated, and based on such reasonable grounds, that perhaps one should not term it servile. And this impression is strengthened by a consideration of what is implied rather than expressed in the latter part of ver. 5. There is hope of a beneficial change even for those who submit in silence to the worst evils of despotism. It is to be found in the conviction of there being a power higher than that of earthly sovereigns, which will in its own time mete out punishment to all transgressors. The wise man"s heart "discerneth both time and judgment;" he will wait patiently for the "time and season of judgment which God hath put in his own power" (Lam_3:26; Ecc_3:1, Ecc_3:11, Ecc_3:17) Evil doing cannot escape punishment; however exalted in station the offender may be, the time will come round when his deeds will be weighed in an unerring balance, and receive the chastisement they deserve. His high-handed disregard of equity and mercy may prevail up to a certain point, but retribution will come when the measure of his iniquity has been filled up. And the knowledge that this is so will help to console and strengthen the wise in the dark and evil day. J.W.
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The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain On vv2, 4, 5 I counsel thee to keep the kings commandment, and…
Ecc_8:2
I counsel thee to keep the kings commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God.
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Obedience to the civil government
Notwithstanding men differ so much in their several opinions concerning human authority, and entertain such various notions about the rise and original foundation of civil government: yet it is generally agreed upon by all sides that it is absolutely necessary that there should be such a thing as government; and the common voice of reason (as well as the practice of all ages) plainly declares that the universal good of mankind can in no wise be carried on without it. From hence it appears to be the interest of mankind in general that government should be kept up and maintained; but because men are so partial to themselves, as through pride, ambition, or revenge, to overlook and disregard the public good, when it stands in competition with their own private advantage: God in His wisdom has thought fit not to leave us to the guidance and direction of natural reason only, but has also by His revealed will more strongly enforced our obligation to contribute in our several capacities towards promoting the public good and common welfare of society. In discoursing upon which words I propose to consider them--
I. As they related particularly to the people of Israel. They may admit of this paraphrase: I advise and counsel you to pay all dutiful submission to your king and governor, to obey his commands in all instances which are not contrary to Gods laws; and thus I counsel thee to observe the kings commandment, not only in point of prudence and humane policy, because he can do whatsoever pleaseth him, and has an absolute power to inflict punishment upon such as shall dare to disobey his commands; but upon a more weighty and religious account, because your disobedience will not only render you obnoxious to the wrath and displeasure of a powerful earthly prince, but provoke to anger the great God of heaven and earth, in whose presence you have obliged yourself by an oath to bear true allegiance to your sovereign; and who (as you very well know) has denounced severe threatenings against all such as shall presume to swear falsely by his name, and has positively declared that he will not hold him guiltless who is not careful to perform unto the Lord his oath.
II. As containing the ground and reason of our obedience to government. That obedience is due from subjects to their governors is a truth fairly deducible from natural reason; and that it is the duty of all men to comply with the laws of the particular constitution of the place where they live, the Scriptures evidently declare. They acquaint us that governors are the ministers of God, appointed for the common good of society, that whosoever resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. As for the grounds and reasons upon which our obedience to government is founded, they are many and various; some take their force from those laws which the voice of reason dictates; some from those precepts and commands which are contained in the books of Scripture; some from that personal security which it has been the custom among many nations for the supreme authority to require of the several members which are under its jurisdiction; and from those engagements and promises which subjects have given the government to which they belong, that they will obediently submit to such rules and orders as the legislative power shall think fit to enjoin them to observe. An oath is a solemn appeal to Almighty God, as a Witness and Avenger. As a Witness to the truth of what we affirm, and the sincerity of our resolution to perform and do what we promise. As an Avenger in case we deliver for a truth what we know or believe to be false, and do not actually design to perform what we promise. It is therefore a most shameful and abominable practice to play fast and loose with things of so sacred a nature: it is one of the vilest as well as most dangerous sins a man can commit, one of the greatest indignities he can offer to his Creator; it is in a manner as enormous a crime as the calling in question Gods infinite truth and knowledge, and near as hazardous a provocation as that of bidding defiance to His almighty power. (T. Payne, M. A.)
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv2, 5 God's oath to protect him
God's oath to protect him
"the oath you made before God to protect him"
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Do not hurry out of his presence
Possible meanings are 1) not to be hasty to physically leave the king's presence or 2) This is a metaphor that speaks of being loyal to the king as being in his presence. AT: "Do not abandon the king" (See: Metaphor)
The king's word rules
"What the king says is the law"
who will say to him
This rhetorical question emphasizes that no one will ask the king the following question. This question can be written as a statement. AT: "no one can say to him" (See: Rhetorical Question)
What are you doing?
This rhetorical question is a rebuke. This question can be written as as statement. AT: "You should not be doing what you are doing." (See: Rhetorical Question)
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advice
obey
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command
God
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rule
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8:2 since you vowed to God that you would: Cp. 5:2-6; 1 Kgs 2:41-43.
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