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Laban said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, stay here, for I have divined that Yahweh has blessed me for your sake.” He said, “Appoint me your wages, and I will give it.”
Jacob said to him, “You know how I have served you, and how your livestock have fared with me.
Genesis 30:27-29 sits inside this longer paragraph.
Laban said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, stay here, for I have divined that Yahweh has blessed me for your sake.” He said, “Appoint me your wages, and I will give it.”
Jacob said to him, “You know how I have served you, and how your livestock have fared with me. For it was little which you had before I came, and it has increased to a multitude. Yahweh has blessed you wherever I turned. Now when will I provide for my own house also?”
Laban said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, stay here, for I have divined that Yahweh has blessed me for your sake.”
He said, “Appoint me your wages, and I will give it.”
Jacob said to him, “You know how I have served you, and how your livestock have fared with me.
And Laban said unto him, I pray thee, if I have found favour in thine eyes, tarry: for I have learned by experience that the LORD hath blessed me for thy sake.
And he said, Appoint me thy wages, and I will give it.
And he said unto him, Thou knowest how I have served thee, and how thy cattle was with me.
And Laban said unto him: 'If now I have found favour in thine eyes — I have observed the signs, and the LORD hath blessed me for thy sake.'
And he said: 'Appoint me thy wages, and I will give it.'
And he said unto him: 'Thou knowest how I have served thee, and how thy cattle have fared with me.
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John Calvin 1540 · Public Domain On vv27, 29 27. I pray thee, if I have found favor…
27. I pray thee, if I have found favor in thine eyes. We perceive hence, that Jacob had not been a burdensome guest, seeing that Laban soothes him with bland address, in order to procure from him a longer continuance in his service. For, sordid and grasping as he was, he would not have suffered Jacob to remain a moment in his house, unless he had found his presence to be a certain source of gain. Inasmuch therefore, as he not only did not thrust him out, but anxiously sought to retain him, we hence infer that the holy man had undergone incredible labors, which had not only sufficed for the sustenance of a large family, but had also brought great profit to his father-in-law. Wherefore, he complains afterwards, not unjustly, that he had endured the heat of the day, and the cold of the night. Nevertheless, there is no doubt, that the blessing of God availed more than any labors whatever, so that Laban perceived Jacob to be a kind of horn of plenty, as he himself confesses. For he not only commends his fidelity and diligence, but expressly declares that he himself had I been blessed by the Lord, for Jacob’s sake. It appears, then, that the wealth of Laban had so increased, from the time of Jacob’s coming, that it was as if his gains had visibly distilled from heaven. Moreover, as the word נחש (nachash,) among the Hebrews, means to know by auguries or by divination, some interpreters imagine that Laban, having been instructed in magic arts, found that the presence of Jacob was useful and profitable to him. Others, however, expound the words more simply, as meaning that he had proved it to be so by experiment. To me the true interpretation seems to be, as if he had said, that the blessing of God was as perceptible to him, as if it had been attested by prophecy, or found out by augury.
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On vv27, 29 Or, tried by experience.
Or, tried by experience.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv27–29 Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, I pray…
Gen 30:27 And Laban said unto him, I pray thee, if I have found favour in thine eyes, [tarry: for] I have learned by experience that the LORD hath blessed me for thy sake.
Ver. 27. I pray thee, if I have found favour, &c.] This miserable muckworm, so he may advance his own ends, abased himself to his servants, colloguing or anything, to curry favour, and compass commodity. But he that is swallowed up of the earth (as Korah was), his ears stopped, his heart stuffed, and all passages for God’s Spirit obstructed by it, shall have earth enough when he dies: his mouth shall be filled with a spadeful of mould, and his never-enough quit with fire-enough, in the bottom of hell. Such another courteous caitiff as this in the text was that Plautianus, a rich Roman, of great authority with Severus the Emperor. Omnia enim petebat ab omnibus, et cupiebat omnia , saith the historian {b} Herein only he differed from Laban, when he married his daughter to Antonius the son of Severus, he gave her as much portion as would have sufficed for fifty queens. {a}
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{a} Dio in Vita Severi.
{b} Is tantum filiae suae dedit, quantum reginis quinquaginta satis esset . - Dio in Vita Severi.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On v29 How carefully it was managed, and how greatly improved…
How carefully it was managed, and how greatly improved by my care and industry.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv27–29 And he said, what shall I give thee?.... So…
And he said, what shall I give thee?.... So said Laban to Jacob, still avoiding making any offer himself, but waiting for Jacob, and pressing upon him to fix his wages:
and Jacob said, thou shalt not give me anything; a speech Laban liked very well: his meaning is, that he should give him no certain settled salary, nor even of anything that Laban was now possessed of, and God had blessed him with for his sake he did not desire any part of it:
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but if thou wilt do this thing for me; which he was about to mention, and does in Gen 30:32,
I will again feed and keep thy flock; there is an elegance in the original; "I will return, I will feed, I will keep thy flock": it seems by this that Jacob had relinquished the care of the flock, upon the time of his servitude being out; but, upon the following condition, proposes to return to it, lead it out to the pastures, and feed it on them, and keep it night and day, as he had used to do.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On v27 Verse 27. I have learned by experience] נחשתי nichashti,…
Verse 27. I have learned by experience] נחשתי nichashti, from נחש nachash, to view attentively, to observe, to pry into. I have diligently considered the whole of thy conduct, and marked the increase of my property, and find that the Lord hath blessed me for thy sake. For the meaning of the word נחש nachash, See Clarke on Ge 3:1, &c.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain On v27 Gen 30:27. I have learned by experience — The…
Gen 30:27. I have learned by experience — The best way of learning. And it would be well if we always remembered and adhered to what we have thus learned. But, alas! we are too apt to forget or neglect it.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On v28 Give thee. He wishes to engage him to continue…
Give thee. He wishes to engage him to continue in his service; being convinced, that a faithful and pious servant is a great treasure. Laban promises every thing, and performs little according to his agreement. He never thinks of making Jacob any present for his extraordinary diligence.
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv27–28 Laban said . . . I have learned--His selfish…
Laban said . . . I have learned--His selfish uncle was averse to a separation, not from warmth of affection either for Jacob or his daughters, but from the damage his own interests would sustain. He had found, from long observation, that the blessing of heaven rested on Jacob, and that his stock had wonderfully increased under Jacob's management. This was a remarkable testimony that good men are blessings to the places where they reside. Men of the world are often blessed with temporal benefits on account of their pious relatives, though they have not always, like Laban, the wisdom to discern, or the grace to acknowledge it.
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Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain On v27 27. I have learned by experience — נחשׁתי, I…
27. I have learned by experience — נחשׁתי, I have divined; or, I have learned by divination. The words indicate that Laban had become, to some extent at least, involved in heathen and idolatrous practices. Compare Gen_31:19; Gen_30:32. Some, however, take the word in the wider signification of diligent inquiry and examination, a meaning not sustained by general usage. Laban rather claims to have discovered, by some sort of augury, that Jacob’s God, Jehovah, had favoured him for Jacob’s sake.
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On v27 27. If now I have found, &c.] Cf. Gen_18:3,…
27. If now I have found, &c.] Cf. Gen_18:3, Gen_33:10 (J). Laban’s sentence is unfinished. The words “tarry: for” are inserted to complete the aposeiopesis. Laban wishes to retain Jacob, and to propitiate him with flattering words. The bargain so far has been all in his favour.
I have divined] Lit. “I have observed signs.” The word occurs in Gen_44:5; Gen_44:15, where it is used of obtaining an answer by means of magic. Here Laban means he has “discerned” by clear indications. Perhaps there may be a reference to the custom of consulting the household gods or teraphim. Cf. Gen_31:19. LXX οἰωνισάμην, Lat. experimento didici. See also 1Ki_20:33 marg.
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hath blessed me] This is a new feature in the story, and prepares the way for the following section.
for thy sake] LXX τῇ σῇ εἰσόδῳ = “at thy arrival,” reading l’ragl’ka for big’lal ka.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On v27 (27) I have learned by experience.—Heb., I have divined.…
(27) I have learned by experience.—Heb., I have divined. The verb means, to speak between the teeth; to mutter magical formulœ. Others wrongly suppose that it signifies “to divine by omens taken from serpents;” and some imagine that Laban had consulted his teraphim. Words of this sort lose, at a very early date, their special signification, and all that Laban means is—“I fancy,” I conjecture.” His answer is, however, most Oriental. It is courtly and complimentary, but utterly inconclusive. “If now I have found favour in thine eyes, I have a feeling that God hath blessed me for thy sake.” It, of course, suggests that he would be glad if Jacob would remain with him. In Gen_30:28 Laban comes to the point, but probably this was reached by many circuitous windings.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv27–29 And Laban said unto him (having learnt by fourteen…
And Laban said unto him (having learnt by fourteen years" acquaintance with Jacob to know the value of a good shepherd), I pray thee, if I have found favor in thine eyes (the clause is elliptical, the A. V rightly supplying), tarry: for (this word also is not in the original), I have learned by experience literally, I have divined (yTivojni, from vjn; to hiss as a serpent, hence to augur); not necessarily by means of serpents (Gesenius, Wordsworth, "Speaker"s Commentary"), or even by consulting his gods (Delitzsch, Kalisch), but perhaps by close observation and minute inspection (Murphy, Bush). The LXX render oijwnisamhn; the Vulgate by experimento didicithat the Lord Jehovah. Nominally a worshipper of the true God, Laban was in practice addicted to heathen superstitions (cf. Gen_31:19, Gen_31:32) hath blessed me (with material prosperity) for thy sake.
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The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain On vv27–28 I have learned by experience
Gen_30:27
I have learned by experience
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Moral and religious lessons gained by experience
The words are Labans, and, taken in their connection, they intimate that even an utterly wordly man, such as he was, may be forced to acknowledge the moral providence of God, whereby He takes especial and peculiar care of His servants.
Look at the moral and religious lessons which a thoughtful man may learn by experience.
I. We learn by experience MUCH THAT IS WHOLESOME ABOUT OURSELVES. By the blunders we have made, the falls we have suffered, the injuries we have sustained, the sins we have committed, and the wrongs we have inflicted on others, God has enlightened us in the knowledge of ourselves, and made us feel that it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
II. Experience has taught us MUCH REGARDING THE WORLD AND ITS PLEASURES, POSSESSIONS, AND ENJOYMENTS. Even in the case of the Christian, there is much to wean him from the world as the years roll on. As he grows older the world becomes less and less to him, and Christ becomes more and more. He learns to delight in God, and his growth in holiness becomes the ambition of his life.
III. The experience of the lapse of years teaches US MORE AND MORE OF GOD AS THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. We have increasing proofs of Gods wisdom and Gods faithfulness. Whoever has been false to us, He has remained true. This testimony of experience thus grows with our growth and strengthens with our strength. It is a fortress which is utterly impregnable. (W. M. Taylor, D. D.)
Experience
Find men where you may, they all agree in owning that they owe much to the same Instructor: they all agree in owning that they have grown wiser for the teaching of that unflattering Preceptor, who knows no royal road to truth, and in whose stern school you must stumble once, that you may learn to avoid falling again. And truly here is the best way to learn--the way that sinks the deepest, and is remembered the best.
And if it be true, as the proverbial saying would have it, that experience teaches the foolish, surely it is true no less that experience makes the wise. And as experience is the teacher that instructs all men and instructs them unthanked and unasked, so there are many things which no other can teach us: many lessons we never learn, and many matters we never rightly understand, till we have learned by experience. We shall never know, for example, what our hearts can feel and bear, by the descriptions of other people; no account can make us understand what great sorrow is, or great anxiety, or buoyant gladness, or hearty gratitude, or fixed determination; we must feel in ourselves the quickened pulse of hopefulness, the laden heart of care, the blankness of disappointment and failure; or we shall never know what they mean. Even Jesus Christ, our Maker, gained that consummate sympathy with us which it became our Saviour to have, through actual experience. But there is one class of subjects one great subject which above all others we must know by experience, or we shall not know at all. My brethren, this is a thing that is hard upon mere human reason; this matter of the real power and efficacy of prayer. If there be any truth in what we believe of the power of prayer, it is the mightiest agent--save God Himself--in all the universe: it is stronger than the hurricane that wrecks a navy: stronger than the great ocean to which mans mightiest works are as a plaything. Christian brethren, let us frankly confess what a weak state, what an insecure position we should be in, if we were taking all this on hearsay. Why, it looks such a truly monstrous deal to believe, that positively for your credit as a reasonable man, you would be half ashamed to say you fancied all this. Never concern yourself to unravel the threads the sceptic has twisted; never set yourself to answer by argument the objections he has raised. It can be done, but there is a far better way. Tell him that your Bible bids you pray, and assures you that prayer shall prevail; but tell him more--and God be thanked if you can say so much--tell him that you have put the matter to the proof!--that you were not content to take the thing on the word of others; that you fairly tried, and that you learned by experience that prayer is heard and answered! Another thing that we may learn by rote, but that we never shall really believe till we learn it by experience, is the insufficiency of this world to satisfy the soul; the great truth, that This is not our rest. For experience alone is enough to bring men to the strong belief, that all worldly things, even when possessed in their intensest degree, leave an aching void within the soul--many a stated man of pleasure, many a successful man of ambition, has told us as much as that--but it needs Gods Holy Spirit to touch the soul, before it can take the next step--before it can draw the final conclusion--that the right things for the soul to love and seek are beyond the grave, and that the hearts true home and abiding treasure are there. But we shall give the remainder of our time to looking at one great fact which is best learned by experience--I mean the preciousness, the all-sufficiency, the love and grace, of our blessed Saviour. You remember it is written, Unto you which believe He is precious. Now that seems to mean, that to those who believe, He is more precious than He is to other people; that, in a peculiarly strong sense, His preciousness is a thing that must be learned by experience. So it is. And it is easy to see how it must be. For the value of a thing is understood fully only by those who know how much they want it. And if a man feels that he does not want a thing--that he can do perfectly well without it--why, he will esteem it as of very little value indeed. Now a perfectly worldly and unconverted man feels he needs food, he cannot do without that; and so of course he sets a value on it. He feels he needs a home to dwell in--he cannot do without that; and so of course he sets a value on it. He feels he needs friends--that life would be a poor, heartless thing without them; and so he sets a value on them. But the quite worldly and unconverted man, who brings everything to a quite worldly estimate, does not feel he needs Christ; he never feels any want of Him; he thinks he can do quite well without Him; and of course he sets no value on Him; of course the Saviour is not precious to that man--how can He be? But, brethren, look to the man who has been convinced of his sin and misery by the Spirit of God; and that only our Redeemer can save us from that dismal estate, and see what he thinks of Christ! Yes, that convicted sinner has found his need of the Saviour. He has learnt that food and raiment, and all things men work hardest for and value most, are not the one thing needful--are worth nothing when compared with a saving interest in the blessed Lamb of God. He has learned by experience I He has felt a want, felt that the Saviour alone could supply that want; and he knows what Christ is worth, by what Christ has done! (A. K. H. Boyd, D. D.)
Experience
1. The true teacher.
2. The universal monitor.
3. The indisputable evidence.
4. Experience of sin, pardon, peace.
5. Character thus becomes argument.
6. Let sin be subjected to this test.
7. The Christian triumphant here.
8. Many can answer by experience who cannot answer by controversy. (J. Parker, D. D.)
Learning by experience
The world is a school, and the period of our remaining here is the school-time of our existence. The school is a severe one, the discipline is hard, and the process is often tedious. God is the teacher, and He has many assistants, which in various ways and manners are used to bring the soul to saving knowledge of the truth. Now, there is no method so potent for impressing facts on the mind as actual practice. Theory is an ideality which amid the whirl of time and business is soon dissipated. It is only when we ourselves apprehend, through actual touching and handling, that we get a positive and practical knowledge of anything. The most learned engineer who ever lived would feel at a terrible loss if put to drive an express locomotive or to superintend the engines of a vast steamship, if he had never seen one before, although he might have read and written on the subjects all his life. The most skilful theoretical architect would shrink from the ordeal of practical building.
I. We learn by experience THE FLIGHT OF TIME. The child is scarcely conscious that time moves at all. It is to him a calm, placid, unruffled lake. But the illusion is gradually dispelled. Youth deepens into maturity, maturity glides into incipient decay, and the soul is startled to find how rapidly life is passing. Then it begins to fly by like a rushing river torrent.
II. We learn by experience THE FRAILTY OF HUMAN NATURE. The curse of decay comes as a revelation. Death of a playmate or relation startles the little soul and awakens an unknown terror. Then with the flight of time comes the realization of weakness within ourselves.
III. We have learned by experience the DISAPPOINTMENTS OF EARTH. How has the sanguine heart grown broken and seared! The rosy vision has minished into darkness. Disappointments!
IV. We have learnt by experience THE VANITY OF TRUSTING TO SELF. Self-sufficiency is mans heritage and Satans mightiest weapon. The best contrived scheme brought to nought, the wisest forethought nullified, the labours of a lifetime lost, have shown us how vain is man.
V. We have learned by experience THE UNENDING LOVE, COMPASSION, AND GOODNESS OF GOD. (Homilist.)
Experience
I. SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE.
1. The unsatisfying nature of all earthly objects.
2. The preciousness of Christ.
3. The efficacy of prayer.
4. The benefit of affliction.
5. The sustaining power of Gods grace.
II. THE REASONS WHY GOD TEACHES US BY EXPERIENCE.
1. Because we will not learn our duty without it.
2. Because the lessons thus acquired are the most valuable and permanent.
3. Because we are then more useful to our fellow-men. (Seeds and Saplings.)
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv27, 29 Laban said to him
Laban said to him
"Laban said to Jacob"
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If now I have found favor in your eyes
The eyes represent seeing, and seeing represents thoughts or judgment. AT: "If I have found favor with you" or "If you are pleased with me" (See: Metaphor)
found favor
This is an idiom that means that someone is approved of by someone else. (See: Idiom)
wait, because
"please stay, because"
I have learned by using divination
"I have discovered by my own spiritual and magical practices"
for your sake
"because of you"
Name your wages
This can be made more explicit. AT: "Tell me how much I have to pay to keep you here" (See: Assumed Knowledge and Implicit Information)
translationWords
favor
divination
Yahweh
bless
name
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Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On v27 30:27 I have become wealthy: God had prospered Laban…
30:27 I have become wealthy: God had prospered Laban through Jacob’s presence (see 22:18). Laban may have looked for omens, or simply have perceived what was happening. Since dark-colored sheep (30:32) were rare, a large number of them was considered an omen of God’s blessing.
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