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Hebrews 12:5-11

You have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with children, “My son, don’t take lightly the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him;

for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines, and chastises every son whom he receives.”

It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline? But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then you are illegitimate, and not children. Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? For they indeed, for a few days, punished us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness. All chastening seems for the present to be not joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

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You have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with children, “My son, don’t take lightly the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him;

for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines, and chastises every son whom he receives.”

It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline? But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then you are illegitimate, and not children. Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? For they indeed, for a few days, punished us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness. All chastening seems for the present to be not joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Therefore lift up the hands that hang down and the feeble knees, and make straight paths for your feet, so what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

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  • WEB World English Bible

    You have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with children, “My son, don’t take lightly the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him;

    for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines, and chastises every son whom he receives.”

    It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline?

    But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then you are illegitimate, and not children.

    Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live?

    For they indeed, for a few days, punished us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness.

    All chastening seems for the present to be not joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

  • TYNDALE Tyndale New Testament (1534)

    And ye have forgotten the consolacion which speaketh vnto you as vnto chyldren: My sonne despyse not the chastenynge of the Lorde nether faynt when thou arte rebuked of him:

    For whom the Lorde loveth him he chasteneth: yee and he scourgeth every sonne that he receaveth.

    Yf ye endure chastninge God offereth him selfe vnto you as vnto sonnes. What sonne is that whom the father chasteneth not?

    If ye be not vnder correccion (where of all are part takers) then are ye bastardes and not sonnes.

    Moreover seynge we had fathers of oure flesshe which corrected vs and we gave them reverence: shuld we not moche rather be in subieccion vnto the father of spretuall gyftes that we myght live?

    And they verely for a feaue dayes nurtred vs after their awne pleasure: but he learneth vs vnto that which is proffitable that we myght receave of his holines.

    No manner chastisynge for the present tyme semeth to be ioyeous but greveous: neverthelesse afterwarde it bryngeth the quyet frute of rightewesnes vnto them which are therin exercysed.

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  • GNV Geneva Bible (1599)

    And ye haue forgotten the consolation, which speaketh vnto you as vnto children, My sonne, despise not the chastening of the Lord, neither faint when thou art rebuked of him.

    For whom the Lord loueth, he chasteneth: and he scourgeth euery sonne that he receiueth:

    If ye endure chastening, God offereth him selfe vnto you as vnto sonnes: for what sonne is it whom the father chasteneth not?

    If therefore ye be without correction, whereof al are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sonnes.

    Moreouer we haue had the fathers of our bodies which corrected vs, and we gaue them reuerence: should we not much rather be in subiection vnto the father of spirites, that we might liue?

    For they verely for a few dayes chastened vs after their owne pleasure: but he chasteneth vs for our profite, that we might be partakers of his holinesse.

    Now no chastising for the present seemeth to be ioyous, but, grieuous: but afterwarde, it bringeth the quiet fruite of righteousnesse, vnto them which are thereby exercised.

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  • Hebrews 12:10 (v11) For they indeed, for a few days, punished us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness.
  • Psalms 118:18 (vv5, 11) Yah has punished me severely, but he has not given me over to death.
  • Psalms 119:75 (vv5–6) Yahweh, I know that your judgments are righteous, that in faithfulness you have afflicted me.
  • Numbers 27:16 (v9) “Let Yahweh, the God of the spirits of all flesh, appoint a man over the congregation,
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  • Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (v9) If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and though they chasten…
  • Job 34:31-32 (v7) “For has any said to God, ‘I am guilty, but I will not offend any more. Teach me that which I don’t see. If I have done iniquity, I will do…
  • Psalms 17:15 (v10) As for me, I shall see your face in righteousness. I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with seeing your form.
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  • Colossians 1:22 (v10) yet now he has reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and without defect and blameless before him,
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  • Deuteronomy 4:9-10 (v5) Only be careful, and keep your soul diligently, lest you forget the things which your eyes saw, and lest they depart from your heart all…
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  • Ezekiel 22:7 (v9) In you have they treated father and mother with contempt. Among you they have oppressed the foreigner. In you they have wronged the…
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  • 1 Peter 2:5 (v10) You also, as living stones, are built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God…
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  • 1 Samuel 2:29 (v7) Why do you kick at my sacrifice and at my offering, which I have commanded in my habitation, and honor your sons above me, to make…
  • 1 Samuel 2:34 (v7) This will be the sign to you that will come on your two sons, on Hophni and Phinehas: in one day they will both die.
  • 2 Samuel 6:7-10 (v5) Yahweh’s anger burned against Uzzah; and God struck him there for his error; and he died there by God’s ark. David was displeased, because…
  • 1 Kings 1:6 (v7) His father had not displeased him at any time in saying, “Why have you done so?” and he was also a very handsome man; and he was born after…
  • Psalms 6:1-2 (v5) Yahweh, don’t rebuke me in your anger, neither discipline me in your wrath. Have mercy on me, Yahweh, for I am faint. Yahweh, heal me, for…
  • Proverbs 3:1 (v5) My son, don’t forget my teaching; but let your heart keep my commandments:
  • Proverbs 22:15 (v7) Folly is bound up in the heart of a child: the rod of discipline drives it far from him.
  • Isaiah 27:9 (v6) Therefore by this the iniquity of Jacob will be forgiven, and this is all the fruit of taking away his sin: that he makes all the stones of…
  • Acts 2:30 (v9) Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, he…
  • Romans 1:3 (v9) concerning his Son, who was born of the offspring of David according to the flesh,
  • Romans 9:3 (v9) For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brothers’ sake, my relatives according to the flesh
  • 1 Chronicles 15:12-13 (v5) and said to them, “You are the heads of the fathers’ households of the Levites. Sanctify yourselves, both you and your brothers, that you…
  • Job 34:31 (v5) “For has any said to God, ‘I am guilty, but I will not offend any more.
  • Psalms 119:16 (v5) I will delight myself in your statutes. I will not forget your word.
  • Proverbs 4:5 (v5) Get wisdom. Get understanding. Don’t forget, and don’t deviate from the words of my mouth.
  • Acts 14:22 (v7) strengthening the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that through many afflictions we must enter into…

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John Calvin 1540 · Public Domain On vv5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11 5. And ye have forgotten, etc. I read the…

5. And ye have forgotten, etc. I read the words as a question; for he asks, whether they had forgotten, intimating that it was not yet time to forget. But he enters here on the doctrine, that it is useful and needful for us to be disciplined by the cross; and he refers to the testimony of Solomon, which includes two parts; the first is, that we are not to reject the Lord’s correction; and in the second the reason is given, because the Lord loves those whom he chastises. But as Solomon thus begins, my “Son”, the Apostle reminds us that we ought to be allured by so sweet and kind a word, as that this exhortation should wholly penetrate into our hearts.

Now Solomon’s argument is this: — If the scourges of God testify his love towards us, it is a shame that they should be regarded with dislike or hatred. For they who bear not to be chastised by God for their own salvation, yea, who reject a proof of his paternal kindness, must be extremely ungrateful.

John Calvin's Commentaries (1540-1563) — public domain. Text from the Calvin Translation Society English edition (1840s-50s) via the Christian Classics Ethereal Library (ccel.org). Calvin's coverage is partial (roughly two-thirds of the Bible); uncommented books and verses are honest gaps, never fabricated. The 19th-century editor's footnotes and remarks are omitted so the notes are faithfully Calvin's own voice.

Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On vv5, 9, 10 Secondly, because they are testimony of his fatherly good…
John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv5–11 5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh…
Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On vv5–11 And ye have forgotten; eklelhsye, whether rendered interrogatively: have…
William Burkitt 1703 · Public Domain On vv5, 6, 7, 9, 11 As if he had said, "By growing weary and…
John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv5–11 And ye have forgotten the exhortation,.... Or consolation, the…
John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain On vv5–11 And yet ye seem already to have forgotten the…
Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On vv5–11 Verse 5. And ye have forgotten] Or, have ye…
Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain On vv5, 9 Heb 12:5-8. And ye have forgotten, &c. — As…
Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain On vv5–11 And ye have forgotten the exhortation - This exhortation…
Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On vv5, 8, 11 You have forgotten the consolation, &c. He puts them…
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv5–11 forgotten--"utterly," so the Greek. Compare Heb 12:15-17, in which…
Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain On vv5–11 5. Ye have forgotten—Perhaps this is truly a question:…
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On vv5–11 5. And ye have forgotten] “Yet ye have utterly…
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On vv5–11 (5) In this cowardly avoidance of trouble and persecution…
The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv5, 7, 9, 10, 11 Vers. 5, 6. And ye have forgotten (or, have…
The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain On vv5, 7, 9, 11 Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord
B. W. Johnson 1891 · Public Domain On vv5–11 5–11. Ye have forgotten the exhortation, etc. Surely they…
The Preacher's Complete Homiletical Commentary 1892 · Public Domain On v9 Heb_12:9. Father of spirits.—See Num_16:22; Num_27:16; Zec_12:1. “The Creator…
Alexander MacLaren 1905 · Public Domain On v10 Ecc 1:13. - Heb 12:10.
C. I. Scofield 1917 · Public Domain On vv5, 6, 11 Jehovah. Pro 3:11; Pro 3:12.
Paul E. Kretzmann 1924 · Public Domain On v9 The object of God’s chastening:
unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv7, 9 Endure suffering as discipline
Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv5, 7, 9, 10 12:5-6 In these verses, the encouraging words are quoted…
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