then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon. Now when all the people who were with Ishmael saw Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces who were with him, then they were glad. So all the people who Ishmael had carried away captive from Mizpah turned about and came back, and went to Johanan the son of Kareah. But Ishmael the son of Nethaniah escaped from Johanan with eight men, and went to the children of Ammon.
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But when Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces who were with him, heard of all the evil that Ishmael the son of Nethaniah had done, then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon. Now when all the people who were with Ishmael saw Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces who were with him, then they were glad. So all the people who Ishmael had carried away captive from Mizpah turned about and came back, and went to Johanan the son of Kareah. But Ishmael the son of Nethaniah escaped from Johanan with eight men, and went to the children of Ammon.
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then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon.
Now when all the people who were with Ishmael saw Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces who were with him, then they were glad.
So all the people who Ishmael had carried away captive from Mizpah turned about and came back, and went to Johanan the son of Kareah.
But Ishmael the son of Nethaniah escaped from Johanan with eight men, and went to the children of Ammon.
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Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon.
Now it came to pass, that when all the people which were with Ishmael saw Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces that were with him, then they were glad.
So all the people that Ishmael had carried away captive from Mizpah cast about and returned, and went unto Johanan the son of Kareah.
But Ishmael the son of Nethaniah escaped from Johanan with eight men, and went to the Ammonites.
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then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon.
Now it came to pass, that when all the people that were with Ishmael saw Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces that were with him, then they were glad.
So all the people that Ishmael had carried away captive from Mizpah cast about and returned, and went unto Johanan the son of Kareah.
But Ishmael the son of Nethaniah escaped from Johanan with eight men, and went to the children of Ammon.
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- 2 Samuel 2:13 (v12) Joab the son of Zeruiah and David’s servants went out, and met them by the pool of Gibeon; and they sat down, the one on the one side of…
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- Proverbs 28:17 (v15) A man who is tormented by life blood will be a fugitive until death; no one will support him.
- Genesis 14:14-16 (v12) When Abram heard that his relative was taken captive, he led out his three hundred eighteen trained men, born in his house, and pursued as…
- 1 Samuel 30:1-8 (v12) When David and his men had come to Ziklag on the third day, the Amalekites had made a raid on the South, and on Ziklag, and had struck…
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- 1 Kings 20:20 (v15) They each killed his man. The Syrians fled, and Israel pursued them. Ben Hadad the king of Syria escaped on a horse with horsemen.
- 1 Samuel 30:18-20 (v12) David recovered all that the Amalekites had taken, and David rescued his two wives. There was nothing lacking to them, neither small nor…
- 2 Kings 25:25 (v15) But in the seventh month, Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, the son of Elishama, of the royal offspring came, and ten men with him, and struck…
- Ecclesiastes 8:11-12 (v15) Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.…
- Jeremiah 41:2 (v15) Then Ishmael the son of Nethaniah arose, and the ten men who were with him, and struck Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan with…
- Acts 28:4 (v15) When the natives saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he has…
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John Calvin 1540 · Public Domain On vv12, 14, 15 Here the Prophet informs us, that Ishmael did not…
Here the Prophet informs us, that Ishmael did not attain his wishes; for he had resolved to sell; as it were, the people to the king of Ammon, but he was intercepted in his course. But he says first, that John the son of Kareah had heard the report, and that he, together with other leaders, went to meet him in order to intercept him in his journey. He says also that he collected all the men, even those who had been dispersed. All then they could have got, they enlisted, and went to fight with Ishmael. And the Prophet adds, that they found him at the great waters And I think they were so called because they were either a lake or a pool. I doubt not, then, but that it was a common name. Some say that the waters were then abundant, because there had been constant rains. But this conjecture is not probable. The simpler meaning is, that these waters were thus called, because in that part the abundance of water was not great in comparison with the lake. Ishmael then was found there. It is now added by the Prophet, that the captives rejoiced when they saw John, and immediately came over to his side. he therefore says, —
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain On v15 For Baalis the king of the Ammonites was the…
For Baalis the king of the Ammonites was the cause of this murder.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain On vv12–15 Jer 41:12 Then they took all the men, and…
Jer 41:12 Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and found him by the great waters that [are] in Gibeon.
Ver. 12. Then they took all the men, and went to fight with Ishmael.] This act of theirs carrieth the commendation of fortitude, of charity, and of piety. Like as did that of Abraham in rescuing Lot; of Gideon and Jehoshaphat in delivering the Israelites from their barbarous and blood-thirsty enemies; of Scanderbeg, Hunniades, Gustavus King of Sweden, &c. Unless Ishmael and Johanan did as Ishmael the Persian King of Selymus, and the Great Turk, who, fighting for the empire of the East, masked their aspiring thoughts under the veil of zeal to their religion. {a} It well appeareth now to the world that neither of them were right, whatever they pretended.
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And they found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon.] Where, in David’s days, those youngsters of Helkathhazzurim had sheathed their swords in their fellows’ bowels. {2Sa 2:16}
{a} Turkish History, 515.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain On vv12, 13, 15 great waters are supposed to be a lake, or…
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great waters are supposed to be a lake, or some great pool in Gibeon, the very same that is mentioned 2Sa 2:13, where Joab and the servants of David met, the one keeping on one side of the pool, the other on the other side.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain On vv12–15 Then they took all the men,.... All the soldiers…
Then they took all the men,.... All the soldiers that were under their command; this they did at once, believing the report to be true, as they had reason to do; since they knew of Ishmael's designs, and had given notice and warning of them to Gedaliah, though he would not listen to them:
and went to fight with Ishmael the son of Nethaniah: resolving to give him battle, and to revenge the innocent blood he had shed, and rescue the captives out of his hands he was carrying to the Ammonites:
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and found him by the great waters that are in Gibeon; taking this road to the country of Ammon, though it was not quite the direct road; either to avoid the forces of Johanan; or rather for the sake of the hid treasure at Shechem, or Shiloh, or Samaria, the ten men had promised him for their lives. These great waters were the same with the pool at Gibeon, where the servants of Ishbosheth and the servants of David met, and sat one on one side, and the other on the other; and where twelve young men on each side slew one another, and from thence called Helkathhazzurim, Sa2 2:12; and the Targum calls it
"the pool of many waters, which were in Gibeon.''
Josephus (p) calls it a fountain in Hebron; which perhaps should be read Gibeon.
(p) Antiqu. l. 10. c. 9. sect. 5.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain On v14 Verse 14. Went unto Johanan] They were weary of…
Verse 14. Went unto Johanan] They were weary of the tyranny of Ishmael, and were glad of an opportunity to abandon him.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain On v12 An open pool still exists at Gibeon, and a…
An open pool still exists at Gibeon, and a large subterranean reservoir fed by a copious natural spring. Gibeon is about two miles north of Mizpah.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain On vv12, 15 Gabaon, famous for the battle of Abner, 2 Kings…
Gabaon, famous for the battle of Abner, 2 Kings ii. 13.
George Leo Haydock (1774–1849), Haydock's Catholic Family Bible and Commentary, 1859 edition — public domain. Excludes Psalms (Douay-Rheims chapter numbering differs from Protestant) and Deuterocanonical books (Catholic canon only).
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain On vv12–14 the . . . waters-- (Sa2 2:13); a large…
the . . . waters-- (Sa2 2:13); a large reservoir or lake.
in Gibeon--on the road from Mizpah to Ammon: one of the sacerdotal cities of Benjamin, four miles northwest of Jerusalem, now Eljib.
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Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain On vv12, 14 12. The great waters that are in Gibeon —…
12. The great waters that are in Gibeon — Probably a reservoir or pool. Robinson describes such a pool still existing there fed by a natural spring. Gibeon is about two miles north of Mizpah, and was one of the sacerdotal cities of Benjamin.
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain On vv12, 14, 15 12. Gibeon] See on Jer_28:1. The “great waters” apparently…
12. Gibeon] See on Jer_28:1. The “great waters” apparently are to be identified with the “pool” of 2Sa_2:13. Gibeon was about a mile N. of Mizpah.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain On vv12, 13, 15 (12) By the great waters that are in Gibeon.—Johanan…
(12) By the great waters that are in Gibeon.—Johanan and his friends had been unable to prevent the slaughter of which they had warned Gedaliah (Jer_41:15), but they were not too late to avenge it. Gibeon, retaining its name with little alteration in the modern El-jibe, lay about two miles from Mizpah; so that Ishmael must have halted on thinking himself safe against attack. On the east side of the hill on which it stands there are the remains of a large tank, about 120 feet by 100. It appears as the “pool of Gibeon” in 2Sa_2:13, as the scene of a conflict between Joab and Abner. Josephus (Ant. x. 9-15) places the attack on Ishmael at “the pool in Hebron,” which is mentioned in 2Sa_4:12. This, however, would hardly have been in Ishmael’s route to the country of the Ammonites.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain On vv12, 14 The great waters.., in Gibeon; i.e. the pool mentioned…
The great waters.., in Gibeon; i.e. the pool mentioned in 2Sa_2:13. Dr. Thomson (p. 670) speaks of a "pond or small lake" near El-Jib. Ishmael seems to be lingering over his journey to Ammon, in order to find the subterranean stores spoken of in ver. 8.
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 On vv13, 15 Then it happened that
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when all the people who were with Ishmael
Here "people" refers to those whom Ishmael and his men had captured.
whom Ishmael had captured
Here "Ishmael" represents himself and all of his men. AT: "whom Ishmael and his men had captured" (See: Synecdoche)
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