A foolish son brings grief to his father, and bitterness to her who bore him.
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A foolish son brings grief to his father, and bitterness to her who bore him.
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A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.
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A foolish son is vexation to his father, and bitterness to her that bore him.
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- Proverbs 10:1 The proverbs of Solomon. A wise son makes a glad father; but a foolish son brings grief to his mother.
- 2 Samuel 13:1-22 After this, Absalom the son of David had a beautiful sister, whose name was Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her. Amnon was so troubled that he became sick because of his sister Tamar; for she was a virgin; and it seemed hard to Amnon to do anything to her. But Amnon had a friend, whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimeah, David’s brother; and Jonadab was a very subtle man. He said to him, “Why, son of the king, are you so sad from day to day? Won’t you tell me?” Amnon said to him, “I love Tamar, my brother Absalom’s sister.” Jonadab said to him, “Lay down on your bed, and pretend to be sick. When your father comes to see you, tell him, ‘Please let my sister Tamar come and give me bread to eat, and prepare the food in my sight, that I may see it, and eat it from her hand.’ ” So Amnon lay down and faked being sick. When the king came to see him, Amnon said to the king, “Please let my sister Tamar come, and make me a couple of cakes in my sight, that I may eat from her hand.” Then David sent home to Tamar, saying, “Go now to your brother Amnon’s house, and prepare food for him.” So Tamar went to her brother Amnon’s house; and he was lying down. She took dough, and kneaded it, made cakes in his sight, and baked the cakes. She took the pan, and poured them out before him; but he refused to eat. Amnon said, “Have all men leave me.” Then every man went out from him. Amnon said to Tamar, “Bring the food into the room, that I may eat from your hand.” Tamar took the cakes which she had made, and brought them into the room to Amnon her brother. When she had brought them near to him to eat, he took hold of her, and said to her, “Come, lie with me, my sister!” She answered him, “No, my brother, do not force me! For no such thing ought to be done in Israel. Don’t you do this folly. As for me, where would I carry my shame? And as for you, you will be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, please speak to the king; for he will not withhold me from you.” However he would not listen to her voice; but being stronger than she, he forced her, and lay with her. Then Amnon hated her with exceedingly great hatred; for the hatred with which he hated her was greater than the love with which he had loved her. Amnon said to her, “Arise, be gone!” She said to him, “Not so, because this great wrong in sending me away is worse than the other that you did to me!” But he would not listen to her. Then he called his servant who ministered to him, and said, “Now put this woman out from me, and bolt the door after her.” She had a garment of various colors on her; for the king’s daughters who were virgins dressed in such robes. Then his servant brought her out and bolted the door after her. Tamar put ashes on her head, and tore her garment of various colors that was on her; and she laid her hand on her head, and went her way, crying aloud as she went. Absalom her brother said to her, “Has Amnon your brother been with you? But now hold your peace, my sister. He is your brother. Don’t take this thing to heart.” So Tamar remained desolate in her brother Absalom’s house. But when king David heard of all these things, he was very angry. Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad; for Absalom hated Amnon, because he had forced his sister Tamar.
- Proverbs 15:20 A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish man despises his mother.
- Proverbs 19:13 A foolish son is the calamity of his father. A wife’s quarrels are a continual dripping.
- Ecclesiastes 2:18-19 I hated all my labor in which I labored under the sun, because I must leave it to the man who comes after me. Who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have rule over all of my labor in which I have labored, and in which I have shown myself wise under the sun. This also is vanity.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain Pro 17:25 A foolish son [is] a grief to…
Pro 17:25 A foolish son [is] a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.
Ver. 25. A foolish son is a grief to his father.] {See Trapp on "Pro 10:1"} {See Trapp on "Pro 15:20"}
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain This he said before, Pro 15:20, and elsewhere; but…
This he said before, Pro 15:20, and elsewhere; but he here repeats it as a point of great moment and constant use, and as a powerful motive to oblige both children to carry themselves wisely and dutifully to their parents, as they would not be thought to be unnatural or inhuman, and parents to educate their children prudently and religiously, at least for their own comfort, if not for the public good.
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Matthew Henry 1710 · Public Domain Observe, 1. Wicked children are an affliction to both…
Observe, 1. Wicked children are an affliction to both their parents. They are an occasion of anger to the father (so the word signifies), because they contemn his authority, but of sorrow and bitterness to the mother, because they abuse her tenderness. The parents, being joint-sufferers, should therefore bring mutual comfort to bear them up under it, and strive to make it as easy as they can, the mother to mollify the father's anger, the father to alleviate the mother's grief. 2. That Solomon often repeats this remark, probably because it was his own case; however, it is a common case.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain A foolish son is a grief to his father,....…
A foolish son is a grief to his father,.... Because of his folly and wickedness, and the ruin he is bringing himself to;
and bitterness to her that bare him; a cause of bitterness of soul to his mother, more distressing than the bitter pains with which she brought him forth into the world. Jarchi, by the father, understands the blessed God; and by her that bare him, the congregation of Israel; to whom Jeroboam, the son of Nebat, was bitterness, who caused Israel to sin; see Pro 10:1.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain Pro 17:25-26. A foolish son, &c. — This was…
Pro 17:25-26. A foolish son, &c. — This was said before, Pro 15:20, and elsewhere; but he here repeats it, as a point of great moment and constant use, and as a powerful motive to oblige both children to conduct themselves wisely and dutifully toward their parents, as they would not be thought to be unnatural and inhuman, and parents to educate their children prudently and religiously, at least for their own comfort, if not for the public good. Also to punish, &c. — The particle also, here, seems to have relation to the foregoing sentence, and to imply that, as it is a very evil thing for children to cause grief to their parents, so is it also to do what here follows. To punish the just is not good — For parents, princes, or rulers, (to whom alone this power belongs,) to punish innocent and good men, is highly evil and abominable; nor to strike princes for equity — Nor to smite magistrates, either with the hand or tongue, for the execution of justice, as condemned persons are apt to do. But some learned interpreters read this clause, Nor for princes to strike any man for equity, or for doing his duty, or what is just. The Hebrew will very well bear this reading, and it agrees better with the former clause than that which our translators have adopted. Besides that it belongs properly to princes, or magistrates, to punish or strike.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain Compare Pro 17:21. Here is added a reference to…
Compare Pro 17:21. Here is added a reference to the sorrow which the folly of a child brings especially to the mother.
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Surely the Divine Spirit did not repeat the proverb (Pro 17:21 ) for nought. Was it not to deepen our sense of parental responsibility and filial obligation? Can parents be insensible to the prospect of this grief? Can children be hardened into the unnatural selfishness of piercing a parent’s heart with such bitterness? (Pro 19:13 .) The mother’s anguish is here added to the father’s grief. (Gen 26:35 .) "As a sword in her bones," is the apprehension of having "brought forth children to the murderer." (Hos 9:13 .) How uncertain are the dearest comforts of earth! Our fallen mother anticipated the joy of "having gotten a man" — perhaps the promised seed — "from the LORD." (Gen 4:1 .) Yet to the bitterness of her soul "he was of that wicked one, and slew his brother." (1Jn 3:12 .) Her daughter naturally "remembereth no more her sorrow, for joy that a man is born into the world." (Joh 16:21 .) Already she grasps the delightful vision of his infant training, and ripening maturity. And yet too often he proves in the end a foolish son, and bitterness to her that bare him.
Absalom was named ’His father’s peace.’ Yet was he the source of his most poignant grief. This is not the "weeping of a night," succeeded by a "joyous morning" (Psa 30:5 ); but the "heaviness that maketh the heart stoop" (Pro 12:25 ), perhaps for years, perhaps to the end of days. Its connection with eternity gives to the trial its keenest edge. To see a foolish son hurried irrevocably into his eternal doom — Oh! this to the godly parent is an awful conflict. (2Sa 18:33 .) Strong indeed must be that faith (yet such faith has been vouchsafed)†1 which bows reverentially to the Divine Sovereignty, and maintains the serenity of peaceful submission.
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But parental anxieties and sorrows must stimulate the enquiry — ’How may this piercing thorn be spared, this bitter grief — the bitterest that ever a parent’s heart can know — averted?’ The primary root of this sorrow is the indulgence of the will.†2 The vast power of parental influence must be used wisely, at once, at any cost. We must not instruct, or entreat only, but command.†3 We must allow no appeal from our authority, no reversal of our decision. This discipline in the spirit of love, and enforced by example, is God’s honoured ordinance.
Then to give power to all other means, there must be a living faith in the word of God. For if I really believe that awful fact, that my child is "a child of wrath," that Satan claims a right in him, and that if he die unconverted, hell must be his everlasting portion; shall not I apply myself with ceaseless energy to all the means for his soul’s salvation; under the clear conviction, that if he be not saved, "good were it for him that he had not been born"?
But this faith brings encouragement fully proportioned to the tremendous anxiety. For, if I be a Christian Parent, may I not claim a place for my child in the covenant of God? (Gen 17:7 .) May I not plead with him, and for him as a covenanted child? Here I desire to exercise a sound balance of well-disciplined confidence; encouraging parental hopes, and moderating parental anxieties. The law of the kingdom is, "that men should pray always, and not faint." (Luk 18:1 .) The fondest desires may not be accomplished till the eleventh hour. There may be many haltings, many withering blasts, many windings of the path. But "the bread cast upon the waters shall be found," though it be not till "after many days." (Ecc 11:1 .)
Only let us see to it, that our faith proves it soundness as a practical principle. Do parents never pray, that God would take their children as his own, while yet they train them, as if they were for the world? Are we sure, that we desire nothing for them besides, or unconnected with, eternal life?†4 One such desire stirs up another; till at length these few little things thrust down the primary blessing from its place, and it becomes a nullity.
In fine — would we look for rest in our beloved children? (Gen 5:29, margin=Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or, Comfort ) Hold them loose for ourselves; fast for God. Connect them early with his Church. Train their first years in his yoke. Instead of a sinking grief to us, they will then be "the restorers of our life, and the nourishers of our age." (Rth 4:15 .) Instead of being our bitterness as rebels against God, he will own and seal them, as "a seed to serve him, to declare his righteousness," to set forth his praise. (Psa 22:31 ; Psa 92:13 .)
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†1 Lev 10:1-3. 1Sa 3:18 .
†2 Pro 29:15.
†3 Gen 18:19. 1Sa 2:23-25 .
†4 Mark the golden rule, on which all hangs, Mat 6:33 .
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain a grief--or cross, vexation (compare Pro 17:21; Pro 10:1).
a grief--or cross, vexation (compare Pro 17:21; Pro 10:1).
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Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain 25. Foolish son — Comp, Pro_17:21; Pro_10:1.
25. Foolish son — Comp, Pro_17:21; Pro_10:1.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain This verse is more or less a repetition of…
This verse is more or less a repetition of ver. 21; Pro_10:1 Pro_15:20; and comp. Pro_19:13. A grief (kaas). The Vulgate and Septuagint translate, "anger." A foolish son provokes the wrath of his father, and is bitterness to her that bare him, "Bitterness" (memer) oesurs nowhere else; mar and marar are common enough.
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Paul E. Kretzmann 1924 · Public Domain v. 25. A foolish son is a grief to…
v. 25. A foolish son is a grief to his father, causing him sorrow and mourning, and bitterness to her that bare him, by the vexation which he causes.
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 A foolish son is a grief to his father
A foolish son is a grief to his father
This speaks of a son causing his father grief as if the son himself were "grief." AT: "A foolish son brings grief to his father"
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A foolish son ... and bitterness to the woman
This speaks of a son causing his mother bitterness as if the son himself were "bitterness." AT: "A foolish son ... and brings bitterness to the woman"
who bore him
"who gave birth to him"
bitterness
emotional pain, sorrow
it is never good ... neither is it good
These statements can be written in positive form. AT: "it is always wrong ... and it is evil" (See: Litotes)
the righteous person
Another possible meaning is "the innocent person," anyone whom others have accused of a crime that he did not commit.
flog
whip severely
who have integrity
The word "integrity" can be expressed with the adjective "honest." AT: "who are honest" (See: Abstract Nouns)
translationWords
fool
punish
noble
integrity
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Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 17:25 Foolish children: This proverb is equally true of…
17:25 Foolish children: This proverb is equally true of sons and daughters.
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