When I wept and I fasted, that was to my reproach.
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When I wept and I fasted, that was to my reproach.
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When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.
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(69-11) And I wept with my soul fasting, and that became unto me a reproach.
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- Luke 7:33-34 For John the Baptizer came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man, and a drunkard; a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’
- Psalms 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth. I afflicted my soul with fasting. My prayer returned into my own bosom.
- Psalms 102:8-9 My enemies reproach me all day. Those who are mad at me use my name as a curse. For I have eaten ashes like bread, and mixed my drink with tears,
- Psalms 109:24-25 My knees are weak through fasting. My body is thin and lacks fat. I have also become a reproach to them. When they see me, they shake their head.
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John Calvin 1540 · Public Domain 10. And I wept, my soul fasted David here…
10. And I wept, my soul fasted David here proves, by the signs or effects, that his efforts to promote the Divine glory proceeded from a pure and well-regulated zeal, inasmuch as he was not impelled or inflamed by the impetuosity of the flesh, but rather humbly abased himself before God, choosing him to be the witness of his sorrow. By this he shows the more evidently the incorrigible perversity of his enemies. It frequently happens, that those who set themselves boldly for the vindication of the glory of God, provoke and exasperate the wicked to a higher pitch by opposing them contentiously and without moderation. But David’s zeal was so tempered that it ought to have softened even the hardness of steel. By this circumstance he, however, intended to show that he was oppressed with such violence by the frowardness of his enemies, that he dared not even open his mouth to speak a single word in defense of the cause of God, and no other means were left him of defending it but tears and mourning. He was deprived, as we know, of the liberty of giving utterance to the sentiments of his heart, or rather his words, as being those of a condemned person, would have been repelled with cruel reproaches. It was a proof of the greater constancy when in such circumstances he continued to burn with a zeal as unabated as ever, and persevered in the voluntary sorrow which he had engaged to exercise with the view of maintaining the honor and glory of God. He accordingly declares, that he wept and that his soul fasted, and that he was clothed with sackcloth; which were the tokens of mourning among the Jews. But his enemies turned all these things into mockery and jesting; from which it is manifest that they were carried away with the fury of demons. It is of importance for us to be fortified with such an example, that in the present day we may not be discouraged when we meet with the same perversity by which the enemies of the Gospel prove themselves to be rather devils than men. We must, however, beware of pouring oil upon the fire which is already burning too fiercely, and should rather imitate David and Lot, who, although they had not liberty to rebuke the wicked, were yet deeply grieved in their hearts. And even when the wicked are constrained to hear us, mildness and humility will be a powerful means, or rather will be the best seasoning, for tempering holy zeal. Those who conceive of David as intimating that he resigned himself to suffer punishment in the room or stead of his enemies, attempt to confirm their opinion from his having clothed himself in sackcloth. But I take it more simply as meaning, that when he saw things in such a state of confusion, he voluntarily engaged in this sorrowful exercise to testify that nothing was more grievous to him than to witness the sacred name of God exposed to contumely.
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain My zeal moved me to lament and pray for…
My zeal moved me to lament and pray for my salvation.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain Psa 69:10 When I wept, [and chastened] my soul…
Psa 69:10 When I wept, [and chastened] my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.
Ver. 10. When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting] That I might thereby beat down my body, and tame that rebel flesh of mine.
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That was to my reproach] They said I did it in hypocrisy and design. So they dealt by the Baptist, that crucifix of mortification, Luk 7:33.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain Wept for their impiety and reproaches which they cast…
Wept for their impiety and reproaches which they cast upon God and godliness.
Chastened; which word is here understood out of Psa 35:13; as it is also in 2Ch 10:11,14, out of 1Ki 12:11, where it is expressed.
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My soul; either my body, or myself; the soul being oft used both ways. That was to my reproach; they derided me for my piety and devotion, and for my faith in God’s promises, and hopes of assistance from him.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain When I wept,.... Because of the sins of his…
When I wept,.... Because of the sins of his people imputed to him; the hardness and unbelief of the Jews that rejected him; their impiety and profaneness in polluting the temple with their merchandise: he wept at the grave of Lazarus, and over the city of Jerusalem, on account of the blindness of its inhabitants, and the ruin coming upon them; and in his prayers at different times, especially in the garden and on the cross, which were offered up with strong crying and tears; see Joh 11:35;
and chastened my soul with fasting; or "my soul being in fasting" (y). The Targum renders it, "in the fasting of my soul"; the word "chastened" is supplied from Psa 35:13; and "soul" is put for the body, or for the whole person. Christ fasted forty days and nights in the wilderness; and often, through neglect of himself, and multiplicity of business, in preaching, and in healing diseases, was without food for some time: he seems to have been fasting the day that he suffered, when he made atonement for sin; and so answered the type on the day of atonement, when every man was to afflict his soul with fasting, Lev 16:29; hence the Jews taunting at him gave him gall for his meat, and vinegar for his drink, Psa 69:21; and it follows,
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that was to my reproach; if he ate and drank, he was charged with being a glutton and a winebibber; and if he wept and fasted, as John his forerunner did, they reproached him with madness, and having a devil, Mat 11:18; and, as may be reasonably supposed, after this manner;
"can this poor creature, that weeps, and mourns, and fasts, be thought to be the Son of God, a divine Person, as he makes himself to be, and his followers believe he is?''
and so the blind Jews reason to this day.
(y) "cum esset in jejunio anima mea", Musculus, Cocceius, Gejerus, De Dieu.
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John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain Wept - For their impiety. Reproach - They derided…
Wept - For their impiety. Reproach - They derided me for it.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain Psa 69:10-12. When I wept — For their impiety,…
Psa 69:10-12. When I wept — For their impiety, and the reproaches they cast upon God and godliness; and chastened my soul with fasting — That is, either my body or myself; that was my reproach — They derided me for my piety and devotion, and for my faith in God’s promises and hopes of assistance from him. I made sackcloth also my garment — In token of my humiliation and hearty sorrow, as the manner then was in days of fasting. I became a proverb to them — They used my name proverbially of any person whom they thought to be vainly and foolishly religious. They that sit in the gate — That is, as it is generally interpreted, the judges and magistrates, the gates of cities being the places of judicature. But it seems better to agree with the design of the psalmist, and to suit with the next clause, to suppose that he rather meant vain and idle persons, that spent their time in the gates and markets; or such as begged at the gates of the city, as St. Hilary interprets it. And I was the song of the drunkards — Of the scum of the people; of all lewd and debauched persons.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting…
When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting - The words “and chastened” are not in the original. The literal translation would be, “And I wept (away) my soul with fasting;” that is, I gave myself so much to fasting accompanied with weeping, that my strength was exhausted. This refers to his acts of devotion; to his endeavors to discipline his soul so as to lead a strictly religious life.
That was to my reproach - This may either mean that they accused him of hypocrisy and insincerity; or, that they charged him with folly for being so religious, so strict, so self-sacrificing, so serious - perhaps they would say, so superstitious, so gloomy, so fanatical. The latter best accords with the connection, since it was for his “religion” mainly that they reproached him, Psa 69:7-9.
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain wept (and chastened) my soul--literally, "wept away my soul,"…
wept (and chastened) my soul--literally, "wept away my soul," a strongly figurative description of deep grief.
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Daniel D. Whedon 1874 · Public Domain 10, 11. When I wept… with fasting… sackcloth—Possibly because…
10, 11. When I wept… with fasting… sackcloth—Possibly because of the public depravation of morals, and the alienation from spiritual worship; perhaps for his own sin. Psalms 38, 41, 51.
That was to my reproach— They made it the theme of jibes and merriment, as if it were unfitting my station, or insincere and for effect.
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I became a proverb—That is, a by-word, a theme of satirical discourse, as Deu_28:37; 2Ch_7:20; Psa_44:14; Jer_24:9
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain 10, 11. When I wept, (and chastened) my soul…
10, 11. When I wept, (and chastened) my soul with fasting,
It was turned to reproaches for me:
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When I made sackcloth my clothing,
I became a byword unto them.
In shame and penitence for the dishonour done by his countrymen to God, he fasted and mourned; but they only mocked and derided him for doing what they ought to have done themselves (Jer_4:8; Jer_6:26).
The construction of the first line is anomalous. Probably the word for ‘wept’ is a corruption of some word for ‘humbled’ (Psa_35:13) or ‘chastened.’ For byword cp. Psa_44:14.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain (10) When I wept . . .—The expression I…
(10) When I wept . . .—The expression I wept (or lamented) my soul with fasting is hardly intelligible, though perhaps we might say I wept out my soul with fasting. The LXX. and Psa_35:13 suggest an emendation to “I humbled my soul with fasting.”
To my reproach.—Quite literally and better, a reproach to me. Those who made light of the covenant altogether, who were in heart apostates both to faith and patriotism, would naturally treat with contempt those outward signs by which an erring Israelite owned his offence and sought reconciliation.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting,…
When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach. David"s practice of fasting appears both here and also in Psa_35:13 Psa_109:24 2Ki_12:16. As fasting was not enjoined by the Law, he might be reproached for over-righteousness, and perhaps also for ostentation, on account of it.
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Charles H. Spurgeon 1885 · Public Domain Ver. 10. When I wept, and chastened my soul…
Ver. 10. When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach. Having resolved to hate him, everything he did was made a fresh reason for reviling. If he ate and drank as others, he was a man gluttonous and a winebibber; if he wept himself away and wore himself out with fasting, then he had a devil and was mad. Nothing is more cruel than prejudice, its eye colours all with the medium through which it looks, and its tongue rails at all indiscriminately. Our Saviour wept much in secret for our sins, and no doubt his private soul chastening on our behalf were very frequent. Lone mountains and desert places saw repeated agonies, which, if they could disclose them, would astonish us indeed. The emaciation which these exercises wrought in our Lord made him appear nearly fifty years old when he was but little over thirty; this which was to his honour was used as a matter of reproach against him.
Ver. 10. When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach. Behold here, virtue is accounted vice; truth, blasphemy; wisdom, folly. Behold, the peace maker of the world is judged a seditious person; the fulfiller of the law, a breaker of the law; our Saviour, a sinner; our God, a devil. O poor troubled heart! wherefore dost thou weakly wail for any injury or abuse that is offered to thee? God handleth thee no otherwise in this world than he handled his only Son, who hath pledged thee in this bitter potion; not only taking essay thereof, but drinking to thee a full draught. It is not only a comfort, but a glory, to be a partner and fellow sufferer with Christ, who delighteth also to see in us some representation of himself. Dogs bark not at those whom they know, and with whom they are familiar; but against strangers they usually bark; not always for any hurt which they feel or fear, but commonly by nature or depraved custom. How then canst thou be a stranger to the world, if it dost not molest thee; if it detracts not from thee? Sir John Hayward (1560-1627), in "The Sanctuary of a Troubled Soul."
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Ver. 10. There is nothing so well meant, but it may be ill interpreted. Simon Patrick.
Ver. 10-11. That Christ was derided and scoffed at is plain, from Mark 5; for, when he said, "The girl is not dead, but sleepeth, they laughed him to scorn; "and when he spoke of the necessity of giving alms, "Now, the Pharisees, who were covetous heard all these things, and they derided him." And, in his passion, he was derided by the soldiers, by Herod, by the high priests, and many others. Robert Bellarmine.
Ver. 10-12. A prophecy.
I. Of the Saviour's tears: When I wept.
II. Of his fasting.
III. Of reproach.
IV. Of his humiliation: I made sackcloth, etc.
V. Of the perversion of his words: as, "I will destroy
this temple, "etc.
VI. Of the opposition of the Pharisees, and rulers: They
that sit in the gate, etc.
VII. Of the contempt of the lowest of the people: I was
the song, etc. G. R.
Psalms 69:11*
Ver. 10-11. See Psalms on "Ps 69:12" for further information.
Ver. 10-12. A prophecy.
I. Of the Saviour's tears: When I wept.
II. Of his fasting.
III. Of reproach.
IV. Of his humiliation: I made sackcloth, etc.
V. Of the perversion of his words: as, "I will destroy
this temple, "etc.
VI. Of the opposition of the Pharisees, and rulers: They
that sit in the gate, etc.
VII. Of the contempt of the lowest of the people: I was
the song, etc. G. R.
Psalms 69:13*
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 I wept and did not eat food
I wept and did not eat food
The fact that the writer was fasting indicates that he was sad about the way people treated God's temple. (See: Symbolic Action and Assumed Knowledge and Implicit Information)
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they insulted me
"my enemies rebuked me because of it"
I made sackcloth my clothing
Wearing rough, cheap clothing was a symbol of mourning over sin. (See: Symbolic Action)
I became the object of a proverb
The writer speak of himself as if he was the sad or foolish person in a proverb. AT: "I became the example of a sad person spoken of in their proverbs" or "they laugh at me" (See: Metaphor)
Those who sit in the city gate
Here "city gate" is associated with leadership of a town. AT: "The important people of the city" (See: Metonymy)
I am a song of drunkards
The writer speaks of himself as if he was the person about whom the drunkards sing mocking songs. AT: "the drunkards of the city sing disgusting songs about me" (See: Metaphor)
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Tyndale Open Study Notes 2022 · CC BY-SA 4.0 69:10-12 When the psalmist denies himself normal comforts to…
69:10-12 When the psalmist denies himself normal comforts to seek God in prayer, the wicked ridicule him.
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