As he talked with him, the king said to him, “Have we made you one of the king’s counselors? Stop! Why should you be struck down?” Then the prophet stopped, and said, “I know that God has determined to destroy you, because you have done this, and have not listened to my counsel.”
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As he talked with him, the king said to him, “Have we made you one of the king’s counselors? Stop! Why should you be struck down?” Then the prophet stopped, and said, “I know that God has determined to destroy you, because you have done this, and have not listened to my counsel.”
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And it came to pass, as he talked with him, that the king said unto him, Art thou made of the king’s counsel? forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten? Then the prophet forbare, and said, I know that God hath determined to destroy thee, because thou hast done this, and hast not hearkened unto my counsel.
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And it came to pass, as he talked with him, that the king said unto him: 'Have we made thee of the king's counsel? forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten?' Then the prophet forbore, and said: 'I know that God hath determined to destroy thee, because thou hast done this, and hast not hearkened unto my counsel.'
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Passages linked to 2 Chronicles 25:16 in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, ordered by reader-vote popularity; verse text shown in World English Bible.
- Exodus 9:16 but indeed for this cause I have made you stand: to show you my power, and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth,
- Deuteronomy 2:30 But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him; for Yahweh your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into your hand, as it is today.
- 1 Samuel 2:25 If one man sins against another, God will judge him; but if a man sins against Yahweh, who will intercede for him?” Notwithstanding, they didn’t listen to the voice of their father, because Yahweh intended to kill them.
- 2 Chronicles 16:10 Then Asa was angry with the seer, and put him in the prison; for he was in a rage with him because of this thing. Asa oppressed some of the people at the same time.
- 2 Chronicles 18:20-21 A spirit came out, stood before Yahweh, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ “Yahweh said to him, ‘How?’ “He said, ‘I will go, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ “He said, ‘You will entice him, and will prevail also. Go and do so.’
- 2 Chronicles 18:25 The king of Israel said, “Take Micaiah, and carry him back to Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king’s son;
- 2 Chronicles 24:21 They conspired against him, and stoned him with stones at the commandment of the king in the court of Yahweh’s house.
- Proverbs 9:7-8 One who corrects a mocker invites insult. One who reproves a wicked man invites abuse. Don’t reprove a scoffer, lest he hate you. Reprove a wise person, and he will love you.
- Isaiah 30:10-11 who tell the seers, “Don’t see!” and the prophets, “Don’t prophesy to us right things. Tell us pleasant things. Prophesy deceits. Get out of the way. Turn away from the path. Cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.”
- Isaiah 46:10 I declare the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done. I say: My counsel will stand, and I will do all that I please.
- Jeremiah 29:26 “Yahweh has made you priest in the place of Jehoiada the priest, that there may be officers in Yahweh’s house, for every man who is crazy, and makes himself a prophet, that you should put him in the stocks and in shackles.
- Amos 7:10-13 Then Amaziah the priest of Bethel sent to Jeroboam king of Israel, saying, “Amos has conspired against you in the middle of the house of Israel. The land is not able to bear all his words. For Amos says, ‘Jeroboam will die by the sword, and Israel shall surely be led away captive out of his land.’ ” Amaziah also said to Amos, “You seer, go, flee away into the land of Judah, and there eat bread, and prophesy there: but don’t prophesy again any more at Bethel; for it is the king’s sanctuary, and it is a royal house!”
- Matthew 21:23 When he had come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came to him as he was teaching, and said, “By what authority do you do these things? Who gave you this authority?”
- Acts 4:28 to do whatever your hand and your council foreordained to happen.
- Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to show his wrath and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
- Ephesians 1:11 We were also assigned an inheritance in him, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who does all things after the counsel of his will,
- 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts,
- Revelation 11:10 Those who dwell on the earth rejoice over them, and they will be glad. They will give gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain So hard it is, for the carnal man to…
So hard it is, for the carnal man to be admonished of his fault, that he contemneth, mocketh, and threateneth him that warneth him: yea, imprisoneth him and putteth him to death, 2 Chron. 16:10 and 18:26 and 24:21.
Meaning, the King.
Geneva Bible (1599) marginal notes — public domain.
John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain 2Ch 25:16 And it came to pass, as he…
2Ch 25:16 And it came to pass, as he talked with him, that [the king] said unto him, Art thou made of the king’s counsel? forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten? Then the prophet forbare, and said, I know that God hath determined to destroy thee, because thou hast done this, and hast not hearkened unto my counsel.
Ver. 16. Forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten?] Desine, vel dabis poenas ;
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“ An expectas ut Quintilianus ametur? ”
I Know that God hath determined.] Heb., Counselled. Uncounsellable people have God’s marks upon them.
John Trapp, A Commentary or Exposition upon All the Books of the Old and New Testament (1647–1656) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.
Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain Art thou made of the king’s counsel? who art…
Art thou made of the king’s counsel? who art thou that presumest to direct and govern my affairs, without my commission?
Why shouldest thou be smitten? provoke me no further, lest I cause thee to be killed for thy sauciness.
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I know that God hath determined to destroy thee: this he might know, either by the plain and positive rules of God’s word, as Pro 29:1, or by the suggestion of God’s Spirit.
Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible (1683–1685) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.
John Gill 1763 · Public Domain Then Amaziah king of Judah took advice,.... Not of…
Then Amaziah king of Judah took advice,.... Not of God, nor of his prophets, but of some of his nobles like himself:
and sent to Joash--king of Israel; of his message to him here, and his answer in the two following verses, see the following notes: See Gill on Kg2 14:8. See Gill on Kg2 14:9. See Gill on Kg2 14:10.
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John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain Art thou, &c. - Who art thou that presumest…
Art thou, &c. - Who art thou that presumest to direct my affairs, without my commission? The secure sinner perhaps values himself on having silenced his reprovers and monitors. But what comes of it? It is a plain indication he is marked out for ruin. They that are deaf to reproof, are ripening apace for destruction.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain Verse 16. Art thou made of the king's counsel?]…
Verse 16. Art thou made of the king's counsel?] How darest thou give advice to, or reprove, a king?
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain 2Ch 25:16. The king said, Art thou made of…
2Ch 25:16. The king said, Art thou made of the king’s counsel? — Who art thou, that presumest to direct my affairs without my commission? Forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten? — Provoke me no further, lest I cause thee to be killed for thy impudence. The prophet’s reproof was too just to be answered, and the king could say nothing in excuse for his own folly; but he fell into a passion with the reprover. To the prophet who directed him to send back the army of Israel, he hearkened, though that prophet both contradicted his politics, and lost him a hundred talents of silver: but with this prophet, who only dissuaded him from worshipping the gods of the Edomites, he had no patience, but instantly fell upon him with an unaccountable rage; which must be attributed to the witchcraft of idolatry. Then the prophet forbare — He ceased to advise or reprove him any further, but only denounced the divine sentence passed upon him, for this contempt of God’s message to him, and his other sins, which came to pass, 2Ch 25:20-27. The secure sinner, perhaps, values himself on his having silenced his reprovers and monitors. But what comes of it? I know that God has determined to destroy thee — It is a plain indication that thou art marked for ruin; because thou hast done this, and hast not hearkened to the divine counsel — They that are deaf to reproof, are ripening apace for destruction.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain Art thou made of the king’s counsel? - A…
Art thou made of the king’s counsel? - A subtle irony: “Have I made thee one of my council? If not what entitles thee to offer thy advice?”
For the fulfillment of the prophecy, see 2Ch 25:22-24, 2Ch 25:27.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain Art thou. Heb. adds, "appointed." H. --- The very…
Art thou. Heb. adds, "appointed." H. --- The very character of prophet, authorized him to give counsel even to kings. Amasias had perhaps obeyed this prophet, (v. 7) but now his heart was puffed up with victory. --- Kill thee, sixteen years hence.
George Leo Haydock (1774–1849), Haydock's Catholic Family Bible and Commentary, 1859 edition — public domain. Excludes Psalms (Douay-Rheims chapter numbering differs from Protestant) and Deuterocanonical books (Catholic canon only).
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain as he talked with him, &c.--Those who were invested…
as he talked with him, &c.--Those who were invested with the prophetic character were entitled to counsel kings. Amaziah, had he not been offended by unwelcome truths, would have admitted the claim of this prophet, who was probably the same that had given him counsel previous to the war with Edom. But victory had elated and blinded him.
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown — Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain 16. Art thou made] R.V. Have we made thee.
16. Art thou made] R.V. Have we made thee.
of the king’s counsel] Lit., “counsellor to the king.”
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hath determined] Lit., “hath counselled” (with a play on the king’s word).
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges (gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne; Cambridge University Press, 1878–1918) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain (16) As he talked with him.—When he spake unto…
(16) As he talked with him.—When he spake unto him.
Art thou made of the king’s counsel?—Literally, A counsellor to the king have we appointed thee?
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Why shouldest thou be smitten?—Wherefore should they smite thee?
Hath determined.—Hath counselled. The prophet appropriates the king’s own word, and implies his participation in Divine, if not in royal, counsels.
Because.—The conduct of Amaziah was proof that God had “counselled to destroy him.”
Thou hast done this.—Spurned my warning. Others say: because thou hast adopted the Edomite gods.
Unto my counsel.—Again repeating the king’s expression.
A Bible Commentary for English Readers, edited by Charles John Ellicott (1878–1897) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.
The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain The chapter well keeps up in this verse its…
The chapter well keeps up in this verse its graphic character, though the culminating instances of it are yet to come. Forbear. The faithful prophet is "wise as the serpent, harmless as the dove." He does forbear, but not till the application of his speech, and all that was needful is most outspokenly (more so than before he had heard the usual coward fashion of the tyrant"s threat) pronounced. His forbearing, therefore, is open to no charge of moral cowardice and unprophet-like infidelity.
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 It came about that
It came about that
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Have we made you an advisor to the king? Stop! Why should you be killed?
The king used these rhetorical questions to rebuke the prophet for speaking against him. The questions can be translated as statements. AT: "We certainly did not appoint you to be one of my advisors. So stop talking! If you say anything more, I will tell my soldiers to kill you!" (See: Rhetorical Question)
you have done this deed
This refers back to Amaziah worshiping the gods of the Edomites in 2 Chronicles 25:14.
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