The same was in the beginning with God.
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John Calvin 1540 · Public Domain 2. He was in the beginning. In order to…
2. He was in the beginning. In order to impress more deeply on our minds what had been already said, the Evangelist condenses the two preceding clauses into a brief summary, that the Speech always was, and that he was with God; so that it may be understood that the beginning was before all time.
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Ver. 2. The same was in the beginning] In the instant of creation, as Gen 1:1, therefore also before the creation, therefore from eternity, Eph 1:4; 1Pe 1:10; Pro 8:22-23. {a} "The Lord possessed me" (saith Christ, the essential Wisdom of God there) "in the beginning of his way." Arius corrupted the Greek text, reading it thus, {b} "The Lord created me in the beginning," &c.; and therehence blasphemously inferred that Christ was no more than a creature. But he was "set up from everlasting from the beginning, or ever the earth was," Pro 8:23; Psa 45:6. {c} Hence he is called the "Ancient of days," Dan 7:9. And Thales, one of the seven Sages of Greece, styleth him, "The most ancient of anything that hath being," πρεσβυτατον των οντων.
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With God] Being alius another from his Father, not aliud; a distinct person, yet co-essential and co-eternal; for he was with him in the beginning of "the creature which God created," as himself speaketh, Mar 13:19.
{a} Hinc Iohannes augustum illud et magnificum Evangelis sui initium assumpsit. Mercer in loc.
{b} For εκτησε in place of εκτισε.
{c} Uncta sum in reginam et dominatricem oleo loetitiae. Psa 45:6.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain These words of the evangelist are a further confirmation…
These words of the evangelist are a further confirmation and explication of what the evangelist had said before; asserting the eternity of the Son, and his relation to the Father, and oneness of essence with the Father. Whether the evangelist, forewarned by the Spirit of God, did add this repetition to forearm Christians against those errors which did afterward trouble the church, I cannot say; but certain it is, that these words do effectually confute the Eunomians, who distinguished between the Word which in the beginning was with God, and that Word by which all things were made; and the Arians, who make the Father to have existed before the Son; as also the Anomians, who would make the Father and the Son diverse both in nature and will. Some others make this verse a transition to Joh 1:4, and the sense to be, This same was not manifest to the world from the beginning of the world, but was with God until he came to be manifested in the flesh: thus, 1Jo 1:2, it is said, he was with the Father, and was manifested unto us. He was manifested in the flesh, 1Ti 3:16.
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain The same was in the beginning with God. This…
The same was in the beginning with God. This is a repetition of what is before said, and is made to show the importance of the truths before delivered; namely, the eternity of Christ, his distinct personality, and proper deity; and that the phrase, in the beginning, is to be joined to each of the above sentences; and so proves, not only his eternal existence, but his eternal existence with the Father, and also his eternal deity; and is also made to carry on the thread of the discourse, concerning the word, and not God the Father; and to express, not only his co-existence in nature, but his co-operation in the works of creation next mentioned.
The same was in the beginning with God. This is a repetition of what is before said, and is made to show the importance of the truths before delivered; namely, the eternity of Christ, his distinct personality, and proper deity; and that the phrase, in the beginning, is to be joined to each of the above sentences; and so proves, not only his eternal existence, but his eternal existence with the Father, and also his eternal deity; and is also made to carry on the thread of the discourse, concerning the word, and not God the Father; and to express, not only his co-existence in nature, but his co-operation in the works of creation next mentioned.
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joh 1:3All things were made by him,.... Which is a proof at once of all that is said before; as that he was in the beginning; and that he was with God the Father in the beginning; and that he was God; otherwise all things could not have been made by him, had either of these been untrue: which is to be understood, not of the new creation; for this would be a restraining "all" things to a "few" persons only; nor is it any where said, that all things are new made, but made; and it is false, that all were converted, that have been converted, by the ministry of Christ, as man: all men are not renewed, regenerated, nor reformed; and the greater part of those that were renewed, were renewed before Christ existed, as man; and therefore could not be renewed by him, as such: though indeed, could this sense be established, it would not answer the end for which it is coined; namely, to destroy the proof of Christ's deity, and of his existence before his incarnation; for in all ages, from the beginning of the world, some have been renewed; and the new creation is a work of God, and of almighty power, equally with the old; for who can create spiritual light, infuse a principle of spiritual life, take away the heart of stone, and give an heart of flesh, or produce faith, but God? Regeneration is denied to be of man, and is always ascribed to God; nor would Christ's being the author of the new creation, be any contradiction to his being the author of the old creation, which is intended here: by "all things", are meant the heaven, and all its created inhabitants, the airy, starry, and third heavens, and the earth, and all therein, the sea, and every thing that is in that; and the word, or Son of God, is the efficient cause of all these, not a bare instrument of the formation of them; for the preposition by does not always denote an instrument, but sometimes an efficient, as in Co1 1:9 and so here, though not to the exclusion of the Father, and of the Spirit:
and without him was not any thing made that was made: in which may be observed the conjunct operation of the word, or Son, with the Father, and Spirit, in creation; and the extent of his concern in it to every thing that is made; for without him there was not one single thing in the whole compass of the creation made; and the limitation of it to things that are made; and so excludes the uncreated being, Father, Son, and Spirit; and sin also, which is not a principle made by God, and which has no efficient, but a deficient cause. So the Jews ascribe the creation of all things to the word. The Targumists attribute the creation of man, in particular, to the word of God: it is said in Gen 1:27. "God created man in his own image": the Jerusalem Targum of it is,
"and the word of the Lord created man in his likeness.
And Gen 3:22 "and the Lord God said, behold the man is become as one of us", the same Targum paraphrases thus,
"and the word of the Lord God said, behold the man whom I have created, is the only one in the world.
Also in the same writings, the creation of all things in general is ascribed to the word: the passage in Deu 33:27 "the eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms", is paraphrased by Onkelos,
"the eternal God is an habitation, by whose word the world was made.
In Isa 48:13 it is said, "mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth". The Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah on it is,
"yea, by my word I have founded the earth:
which agrees with what is said in Heb 11:3, and the same says Philo the Jew, who not only calls him the archetype, and exemplar of the world, but the power that made it: he often ascribes the creation of the heavens, and the earth unto him, and likewise the creation of man after whose image, he says, he was made (t). The Ethiopic version adds, at the end of this verse, "and also that which is made is for himself",
(t) De Mundi Opificio, p. 4, 5, 31, 32. De Alleg. l. 1. p. 44. De Sacrificiis Abel & Cain, p. 131. De Profugis, p. 464. & de Monarch. p. 823.
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John Wesley 1765 · Public Domain The same was in the beginning with God -…
The same was in the beginning with God - This verse repeats and contracts into one the three points mentioned before. As if he had said, This Word, who was God, was in the beginning, and was with God.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain The same - The Word, or the λόγος Logos.
The same - The Word, or the λόγος Logos.
Was in the beginning with God - This seems to be a repetition of what was said in the first verse; but it is stated over again to “guard the doctrine,” and to prevent the possibility of a mistake. John had said that he existed before the creation, and that he was “with God;” but he had not said in the first verse “that the union with God existed in the beginning.” He now expresses that idea, and assures us that that union was not one which was commenced in time, and which might be, therefore, a mere union of feeling, or a compact, like that between any other beings, but was one which existed in eternity, and which was therefore a union of nature or essence.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain The same was in the beginning with God. In…
The same was in the beginning with God. In the text is only, "this was in the beginning;" but the sense and construction certainly is, this word was in the beginning. (Witham)
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain The same, &c.--See what property of the Word the…
The same, &c.--See what property of the Word the stress is laid upon--His eternal distinctness, in unity, from God--the Father (Joh 1:2).
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain 2. The same] More literally, He or This (Word),…
2. The same] More literally, He or This (Word), with emphasis (comp. Joh_7:18). This verse takes up the first two clauses and combines them. Such recapitulations are characteristic of S. John.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain (2) The same was.—This is a summary in one…
(2) The same was.—This is a summary in one clause of the three assertions made in the first verse.
The same, that is, the Word who was God, existed before any act of creation, and in that existence was a person distinct from God. Yet it is more than a re-statement. We have arrived at the thought that the Word was one in nature with God. From this higher point of view, the steps below us are more clearly seen. The Word was God; the eternal pre-existence and personality are included in the thought.
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain The same Logos whom the writer has just affirmed…
The same Logos whom the writer has just affirmed to have been God himself, was, though it might seem at first reading to be incompatible with the first or third clause of the first verse, nevertheless in the beginning with God the beginning," and therefore, as we have seen, eternally in relation with God. The previous statements are thus stringently enforced, and, notwithstanding their tendency to diverge, are once more bound into a new, unified, and emphatic utterance. Thus the autov of the following sentences is charged with the sublime fulness of meaning which is involved in the three utterances of ver. 1. The first clause
(1) declared that the Logos preceded the origination of all things, was the eternal ground of the world; the second
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(2) asserted his unique personality, so that he stands over against the eternal God, in mutual communion with the Absolute and Eternal One; the third clause
(3) maintains further that the Logos was not a second God, nor merely Divine (Yeiov) or God-like, nor is he described as proceeding out of or from God (ek Yeou or apo Yeou), nor is he to be called o Yeov , "the God absolute," as opposed to all his manifestations; but the Logos is said to be Yeov , i.e. GodGod in his nature and being. This second verse reasserts the eternal relation of such a personality "with God," and prepares the way for the statements of the following verses. The unity of the Logos and Theos might easily be supposed to reduce the distinction between them to subjective relations. The second verse emphasizes the objective validity of the relation.
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The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain The same was in the beginning with God.
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This repetition teaches
I. HOW LITTLE ABLE WE ARE TO COMPREHEND THIS GREAT MYSTERY, which we can but take in by little and little, and must put that together, as children do letters, syllables, and words, till we attain a more full understanding thereof, for our comfort and salvation.
II. HOW MUCH AND OFTEN IT IS TO BE INCULCATED UPON BELIEVERS to study again and again, as having more in it than will be seen at first view; and when they have found most in it, yet there is infinitely more to be found in that inexhaustible fountain.
III. That believers may read ALL THAT TENDER-HEARTEDNESS, compassion, mercifulness, and sympathy which is in Him, TO BE NOT A MANS ONLY, and in our kinsman, but in Him who is also the eternal God, whose thoughts and purposes are eternal and immutable, like Himself.
IV. That believers may see THE WISDOM AND LOVE OF GOD, who has found a way of reconciliation of lost man BY THE SAME IN NATURE AND ESSENCE, WHO IS THE PARTY OFFENDED. (G. Hutcheson.)
The Word which was in the beginning a testimony
I. To the ETERNAL PERSONALITY, as the ground of all things.
II. To the ETERNAL SPIRIT--Light--as the law of all things.
III. To the ETERNAL LOVE, as the kernel of all things.
IV. To the ETERNAL LIFE, as the life of all things. (Lange.)
The Word in His exaltation over time
He
I. IN THE BEGINNING founded all things.
II. IN THE MIDDLE executed all things; that He may,
III. IN THE END, judge all things. (Lange.)
The eternity of Christ an argument for His oneness with the Father
Does the radiance of the sun proceed from the substance itself of the sun or from some other source? Any one not deprived of his senses must needs confess that it proceeds from the substance itself. Yet, although the radiance proceeds from the sun itself, we cannot say that it is later in point of time than the subsistence of that body, since the sun has never appeared without its rays. It is for this reason that St. Paul calls Him Brightness Heb_1:3), setting forth thereby His being from God and His eternity. (Chrysostom.)
The value of Scripture repetitions
Repetitions have divers uses in Scripture. In prayer they argue affection. In prophecy they note celerity and certainty. In threatenings they note unavoidableness and suddenness. In precepts they note a necessity of performing them. In truths, like that before us, they serve to show the necessity of believing and knowing them. (Arrowsmith.)
With God
These words express the co-existence, but at the same time the distinction of person. They imply relation with, intercourse with. (Comp. the in the bosom of the Father of Joh_1:18, and Let us make man of Gen_1:26 Throned face to face with God, the gaze ever directed towards God, have been given as paraphrases, and the full sense cannot be expressed in fewer words. The with represents motion towards. The Being whose existence is asserted in the was is regarded as distinct, but not alone, as ever going forth in communion with God. (Comp. the use of the same word with in Mat_13:56; Mat_26:15; Mar_6:3; Mar_9:19; 1Co_16:6-7; Gal_1:18; Gal_4:18.) (H. W.Watkins, D. D.)
Christ and the Creation
The old Gnostic Christians held that the world was not created by the Great God, but by Demiurgus, a spirit descending from the AEons, which were themselves derived from the Deity. Johns statement stands in direct antagonism to this. From this we infer
I. THAT CHRIST IS OLDER THAN THE UNIVERSE. The worker must be older than his productions.
II. THAT CHRIST IS GREATER THAN THE UNIVERSE. As the architect is greater than his building, the author than his work, the artist than his productions, Christ is greater than the universe.
1. Greater in extent. But Christs being extends beyond the limits of the universe.
2. Greater in force.
3. Greater in beauty.
III. THAT CHRIST IS OWNER OF THE UNIVERSE. Production gives the highest right to possession. (D. Thomas, D. D.)
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