The princes of Succoth said, “Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand, that we should give bread to your army?”
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The princes of Succoth said, “Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand, that we should give bread to your army?”
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And the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thine army?
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And the princes of Succoth said: 'Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thy power, that we should give bread unto thine army?'
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Passages linked to Judges 8:6 in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, ordered by reader-vote popularity; verse text shown in World English Bible.
- 1 Kings 20:11 The king of Israel answered, “Tell him, ‘Don’t let him who puts on his armor brag like he who takes it off.’ ”
- Philippians 2:21 For they all seek their own, not the things of Jesus Christ.
- Genesis 25:13 These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to the order of their birth: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebaioth, then Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam,
- Genesis 37:25 They sat down to eat bread, and they lifted up their eyes and looked, and saw a caravan of Ishmaelites was coming from Gilead, with their camels bearing spices and balm and myrrh, going to carry it down to Egypt.
- Genesis 37:28 Midianites who were merchants passed by, and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmaelites for twenty pieces of silver. The merchants brought Joseph into Egypt.
- Judges 5:23 ‘Curse Meroz,’ said Yahweh’s angel. ‘Curse bitterly its inhabitants, because they didn’t come to help Yahweh, to help Yahweh against the mighty.’
- Judges 8:15 He came to the men of Succoth, and said, “See Zebah and Zalmunna, concerning whom you taunted me, saying, ‘Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand, that we should give bread to your men who are weary?’ ”
- 1 Samuel 25:10-11 Nabal answered David’s servants, and said, “Who is David? Who is the son of Jesse? There are many servants who break away from their masters these days. Shall I then take my bread, my water, and my meat that I have killed for my shearers, and give it to men who I don’t know where they come from?”
- 2 Kings 14:9 Jehoash the king of Israel sent to Amaziah king of Judah, saying, “The thistle that was in Lebanon sent to the cedar that was in Lebanon, saying, ‘Give your daughter to my son as wife. Then a wild animal that was in Lebanon passed by, and trampled down the thistle.
- Proverbs 18:23 The poor plead for mercy, but the rich answer harshly.
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Geneva Bible translators 1599 · Public Domain Because thou hast overcome an handful, thinkest thou to…
Because thou hast overcome an handful, thinkest thou to have overcome the whole?
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John Trapp 1656 · Public Domain Jdg 8:6 And the princes of Succoth said, [Are]…
Jdg 8:6 And the princes of Succoth said, [Are] the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thine army?
Ver. 6. And the princes of Succoth said.] They not only deny him so reasonable a request, but deride and scornfully treat him, in like sort as afterwards Nabal the churl did David; which vexed him not a little.
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Matthew Poole 1685 · Public Domain Art thou so foolish to think, with thy three…
Art thou so foolish to think, with thy three hundred faint and weary soldiers, to conquer and destroy a host of fifteen thousand men?
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John Gill 1763 · Public Domain And the princes of Succoth said,.... The chief magistrates…
And the princes of Succoth said,.... The chief magistrates of the place made answer, one in the name of the rest; for the word said is in the singular number:
are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hands; that is, are they taken prisoners, and handcuffed, or their hands bound behind them, and put into the hands of Gideon, to do with them as he pleased? no, they were not; and they suggest they never would, deriding him and his small number of men as not a match for these kings, whom, perhaps a little before, they had seen pass by with 15,000 men; with whom his little army would not be able to encounter, should they turn and fall upon them, which they supposed would be the case; and therefore, say they, when these are in thine hands, which they thought would never be, it will be time enough
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that we should give bread to thine army? for they feared, should they do that, these kings would hear of it, and they should suffer for it, and their bondage be harder than it was before; so selfish and diffident in themselves, so cruel and uncompassionate to their brethren, and so ungrateful to their deliverers, which stirred up the spirit of this humble and good man to great resentment.
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Adam Clarke 1810 · Public Domain Verse 6. Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna…
Verse 6. Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand] They feared to help Gideon, lest, if he should be overpowered, the Midianites would revenge it upon them; and they dared not trust God.
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Joseph Benson 1811 · Public Domain Jdg 8:6. Are the hands of Zeba and Zalmunna…
Jdg 8:6. Are the hands of Zeba and Zalmunna now in thy hand? — Art thou so foolish as to think with thy three hundred faint and weary soldiers to conquer and destroy fifteen thousand men? Thus they make light of the advantage he had gained, and tauntingly tell him, that he had not yet got these kings into his hands, that they should run the danger of giving him and his men food, and so afterward have those kings to fall upon them. Thus they show the most dastardly and ungenerous spirit, and shut up the bowels of their compassion against their brethren, who, with extreme toil, and at the hazard of their lives, were endeavouring to deliver them and the rest of their country from a cruel slavery. Were these Israelites! Surely they were worshippers of Baal, or in the interest of Midian.
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Albert Barnes 1834 · Public Domain The number of the followers of Zebah and Zalmunna…
The number of the followers of Zebah and Zalmunna was still so formidable, and Gideon’s enterprise still so doubtful, that the men of Succoth (being on the same side of the Jordan) would not risk the vengeance of the Midianites by giving supplies to Gideon’s men.
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Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary 1859 · Public Domain Hand. Perhaps thou makest sure of taking these kings.…
Hand. Perhaps thou makest sure of taking these kings. (Haydock) We apprehend that they will return with greater forces, and punish our compliance. (Menochius)
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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown 1871 · Public Domain the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of…
the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand--an insolent as well as a time-serving reply. It was insolent because it implied a bitter taunt that Gideon was counting with confidence on a victory which they believed he would not gain; and it was time-serving, because living in the near neighborhood of the Midianite sheiks, they dreaded the future vengeance of those roving chiefs. This contumelious manner of acting was heartless and disgraceful in people who were of Israelitish blood.
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The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges 1878 · Public Domain 6. the princes of Succoth] i.e. the executive officials…
6. the princes of Succoth] i.e. the executive officials of the community, responsible for its government, e.g. Jdg_9:30 (‘ruler,’ lit. ‘prince’), or for the conduct of its wars, e.g. Jdg_7:25, Jdg_8:3. See further on Jdg_8:14.
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers 1878 · Public Domain (6) Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now…
(6) Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand?—Literally, Is the fist (caph) of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thy hand (yad)? The general meaning, of course, is clear: “Are you so completely victor as to secure us from the vengeance of these kings?” (Comp. 1Ki_20:11.) But what the exact shade of meaning is in this proverbial expression we do not know. Perhaps it is an allusion to the chained hands of captives. Nor do we know whether the tone of the elders of Succoth was one of derision or only of cowardice. In any case, they were guilty of inhumanity, want of faith, want of courage, and want of patriotism.
That we should give bread unto thine army.—They use the exaggerated term “army,” as though to magnify the sacrifice required of them. Gideon had only said “my followers.”
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The Pulpit Commentary 1880 · Public Domain And the princes of Succoth, etc. Nothing could be…
And the princes of Succoth, etc. Nothing could be more selfish, cowardly, and unpatriotic, than the conduct of the chief men of Succoth. Instead of aiding Gideon in his gallant enterprise for the deliverance of his country, they refused even food to his weary followers, for fear of the possibility of incurring the anger of the Midianites in ease Gideon should fail. Their conduct and that of the men of Penuel is perhaps one among many indications how little real union there was between the tribes on the opposite sides of the Jordan. (see Jud_1:5:16, 17)
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The Biblical Illustrator 1887 · Public Domain The princes of Succoth . . . The men…
Jdg_8:6-17
The princes of Succoth . . . The men of Penuel.
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Patience under provocation
Instead of being supported, as they had good right to expect they would have been, by those who profess to be the Lords people, instances are by no means rare of men of Gideons stamp being met on their part by scoffs and insinuations, and positive refusals along with cold prudential admonitions to attend to their own business, and allow matters just to take their course. Nor is this all. There are some who go even farther still--men who, while professing to be the friends of truth, are found actually, out of deliberate malice, envy, or jealousy, refusing to lend a lending hand and casting obstacles in the way of accomplishing the reformation on which their generous hearts are set. Now of all this we are furnished with a striking illustration in what is here recorded as having passed between Gideon and the men of Succoth and Penuel. Yet mark how nobly he continued to restrain the impulse of his resentment--an example which naturally reminds us of that of one greater far than Gideon, when He met with treatment similar, yet worse still, at the hands of those whom He had come to seek and to save from a servitude more deplorable by far. Oh, how amazing was His long-suffering forbearance! How analogous also to the conduct of Gideon, while infinitely more worthy of our admiration, was the patient perseverance with which He went on His way, still carrying forward the work which His Father had given Him to do, and for the sake of those very people who thus shamefully requited His love and service and self-denial, exposed Himself to still greater privations and still severer sufferings than any He had yet borne! Oh, if we wonder at the behaviour of the Ephraimites and the men of Succoth and Penuel toward Gideon son of Joash under provocation so aggravated, what ought we to think of Jesus the Son of God in bearing with us as He does! Yet, from what afterwards took place, let us beware how we presume on the long-suffering to which we owe so much. If the promises of Christ are yea and amen, so also are His threatenings; let us never for one moment lose sight of that! Gideon contented himself meanwhile with simply threatening the men of Succoth and Penuel, the former that he would tear their flesh with thorns (Jdg_8:7), the latter that he would break down their tower (Jdg_8:8) But afterwards, when he returned from taking vengeance on his countrys enemies at Karkor, thereby crowning his enterprise with complete success, then he fulfilled these threatenings to the very letter. And even so it shall be with all the enemies of Jesus, with all who decline to come to the help of the Lord against the mighty, at that day when He shall come again, to be admired of all them that love Him, and to take vengeance on all besides. Sooner or later the judgment He has threatened shall descend upon them. (W. W. Duncan, M. A.)
Punishment of the selfish and mean-spirited
These men were blind to the glory of the common cause--selfish, poor-spirited creatures, that shut themselves up in their fenced cities, and were satisfied to let Gods soldiers starve, and Gods work come to an end for want of support, so long only as they had bread enough to satisfy their own hunger. This was a state of mind not to be corrected by a mere civil speech or explanation. Gideon taught them, not by expostulation, but by the sword and with the briers of the wilderness. Can we say that there are none now who merit the same punishment? none who resist every appeal to assist those who are faint by pursuing Gods work? There are still men who have no eye for spiritual importance, but measure all things by their outward appearance and by their relation to their own comfort; men who fortify themselves in their ungenerous selfishness by asking, as these men of Succoth did, What have you made of this pursuit in which you want us to assist you? what great good have you done, that we should help you? Are Zebah and Zalmunna already in your hands, that we should acknowledge you as useful men, and give you what you ask to help you on in your pursuit? For such persons, who despise the day of small things, who cannot recognise God if He takes on Him the form of a little child, nor His Church when it exists as a grain of mustard-seed, there remains the doom of seeing the whole work of God in the world finished without their aid, and of hearing the voice of God Himself in rebuke, Behold, ye despisers, and wonder and perish! (Marcus Dods, D.D.)
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unfoldingWord translationNotes 2017 · CC BY-SA 4.0 Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in…
Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand?
The leaders use a question to emphasize that the Israelites have not yet captured Zebah and Zalumnna. AT: "You have not captured Zebah and Zalmunna yet." (See: Rhetorical Question)
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Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna
Here "hands" refer to the whole body. (See: Synecdoche)
now in your hand
Here "hand" represents power or control. (See: Metonymy)
Why should we give bread to your army?
The leaders use a question to emphasize that they have no reason to give bread to the Israelites. AT: "We see no reason to give bread to your army." (See: Rhetorical Question and Assumed Knowledge and Implicit Information)
I will tear your skin with the desert thorns and briers
The full meaning of this statement can be made explicit. AT: "I will make whips out of desert thorns and briers and use them to beat you and cut you" (See: Assumed Knowledge and Implicit Information)
thorns and briers
sharp, pointed pieces on vines or tree limbs that stick out and can cut people and animals
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bread
Gideon
Yahweh
flesh
desert
thorn
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